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#21 BSLSeanJester

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Posted 02 November 2014 - 10:26 PM

Good for Carroll county. Let them do what they want. They probably don't want the stereotypical riff raff from mass transit but they won't get any of the positives either.

IMO not much reason to do anything transit related in CC anyway.

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Posted 02 November 2014 - 10:54 PM

Good for Carroll county. Let them do what they want. They probably don't want the stereotypical riff raff from mass transit but they won't get any of the positives either.

IMO not much reason to do anything transit related in CC anyway.

 

Other than all of the people who commute to the city...


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Posted 02 November 2014 - 11:08 PM

Other than all of the people who commute to the city...

 

Plus all the other ways that Carroll county benefits from being part of the metro BAL area...

 

This is just about some neanderthal politicians wanting to get credit for "keeping the darkies away"... the extra-sick part is that it might benefit said politicians rather than hurt them...  too bad we don't have politicians that bring out the best in people rather than the worst...


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Posted 03 November 2014 - 01:52 AM

Sounds like Carroll County hasn't changed a bit (I say that as someone who grew up there, couldn't wait to get the hell out, and never went back). One of their main water sources is Liberty Reservoir, which is owned by Baltimore City Dept of Public Works. I suggest the city turn off the taps that feed Carroll County. They'd actually be doing them a favor....the last thing those hicks want is to be poisoned by that nasty "city water."

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Posted 03 November 2014 - 07:13 AM

Other than all of the people who commute to the city...

People may work in the city but they moved to CC to get away from all things city.

And if a majority of people there don't want a bus or train bringing people to and from the city, why should they be forced to have one?

It's a dumb decision IMO. But CC isn't worried about TOD or cutting down on emissions. They're the people who complain about traffic and the price of gas while driving an Expedition. And they're not changing anytime soon.

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Posted 03 November 2014 - 07:29 AM

People may work in the city but they moved to CC to get away from all things city.

 

Except their jobs... and their drinking water... and their sports teams... and their etc, etc., etc.

 

It would be a lot easier to list the things they really are trying to get away from than to list the things they aren't... because the former list is a lot shorter than the latter...

 


And if a majority of people there don't want a bus or train bringing people to and from the city, why should they be forced to have one?
 

 

Impeccable logic.  

 

But why diss mass transit?  Why not just let them ban black folks?  Wouldn't that be more straightforward?  If a majority of people don't want black people out there, why should they be forced to have some?  Or do you think they should only be able to ban the ones who don't have a car?

 


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Posted 03 November 2014 - 07:41 AM

I don't agree with the decision but counties and states should be able to legislate based on the concerns of their citizens, however stereotypical and border line racist as they may be.

If anything, Owings Mills will benefit from this since a lot of people from CC drive there to take train to city, and they're building around the metro there so maybe people will eat at a restaurant there after work or go shopping, and not realize that they could do all of that somewhere in CC, while driving a lot less to get there.

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Posted 03 November 2014 - 07:46 AM

counties and states should be able to legislate based on the concerns of their citizens, however stereotypical and border line racist as they may be.
 

 

You support mob rule...

 

The whole dang country was designed on the principle that direct democracy is dangerous and should not happen.  That's why it's the US is republic: to stop mob rule from happening.  It's one of the very, very few things that both sides of all the original debates about the Constitution agreed about.  


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Posted 03 November 2014 - 08:17 AM

Let's use this thread to just post about ongoing projects, without discussing the mechanics behind the scenes and decisions made.

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Posted 03 November 2014 - 09:31 AM

One last comment Chris. 

 

I think the biggest issue with this Carroll County thing is the state of mass transit in Baltimore. It's disjointed, it's poorly run and maintained, and there are regular incidents that give it a bad name in this region. Someone recently tried to throw someone off a moving metro train. A bus driver called her friends to beat up a passenger. Customer service is poor. Buses are routinely late. The light rail is a snail through the downtown area. While there isn't a definitive study or report to prove that mass transit equals crime, it's the assumption in these parts and there's nothing that is going to change that any time soon.

 

So. Carroll County doesn't want a disjointed transit operation in their county. We all know what it really means -- and that sucks -- but I can't blame them for trying to shut down a potential line. Maybe if the MTA (and the city and state governments) got their act together to provide the region with a transit system we deserve, you wouldn't see stuff like this. The pros would outweigh the cons. But as it stands now, that's not the case for Carroll County.


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Posted 03 November 2014 - 11:27 AM

I don't agree with the decision but counties and states should be able to legislate based on the concerns of their citizens, however stereotypical and border line racist as they may be.

 

You're absolutely right. But we still get to mock them for it anyway :D


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Posted 03 November 2014 - 11:28 AM

Let's use this thread to just post about ongoing projects, without discussing the mechanics behind the scenes and decisions made.

 

Fair enough. I just didn't want to start a new thread :)


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Posted 03 November 2014 - 07:56 PM

Fair enough. I just didn't want to start a new thread :)

 

I think he was mainly talking to me :-0


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Posted 23 December 2014 - 10:33 AM

http://www.baltimore...1222-story.html

 

So Plank is buying up the Port Convington area, and word from a development forum I frequent says Nick's Fish House and Wal Mart are were also bought...sounds like there could be some huge development in that part of town within the next few years.

 

Westport has been in development/for sale for years now too. That section of the city could look a lot different in a few years.

 

I wonder if this could potentially serve as a new UA campus -- or something else?


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Posted 11 March 2015 - 08:52 PM

http://www.baltimore...1222-story.html

 

So Plank is buying up the Port Convington area, and word from a development forum I frequent says Nick's Fish House and Wal Mart are were also bought...sounds like there could be some huge development in that part of town within the next few years.

 

Westport has been in development/for sale for years now too. That section of the city could look a lot different in a few years.

 

I wonder if this could potentially serve as a new UA campus -- or something else?

 

Potential step 1...

 

http://www.baltimore...0311-story.html

 

The Sagamore Spirit distillery, another Plank venture, is the first new construction to be discussed publicly for the more than 120 acres assembled by Plank‚Äôs Sagamore Development Co. on the South Baltimore peninsula. Sagamore Development is working on a master plan for the area, where Plank wants to build a mixed-use hub for Under Armour and its employees.


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Posted 11 March 2015 - 09:00 PM

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Posted 12 May 2015 - 07:04 AM

The Sun posted an Editorial mentioning how now (after the riots and destruction) more than ever Baltimore needs the Red Line and the economic benefits that would come from it.



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Posted 12 May 2015 - 07:54 AM

The Sun posted an Editorial mentioning how now (after the riots and destruction) more than ever Baltimore needs the Red Line and the economic benefits that would come from it.

It would create a lot of jobs but it doesn't necessarily mean that all of Sandtown-Winchester is going to be hired and magically fix all these issues.


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Posted 12 May 2015 - 08:12 AM

The Sun posted an Editorial mentioning how now (after the riots and destruction) more than ever Baltimore needs the Red Line and the economic benefits that would come from it.

 

"Red Line" is an unfortunate color choice, given the history of gov't policy hurting those neighborhoods...


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Posted 12 May 2015 - 09:39 AM

I'd love to see one massive Metro connection DC and BMore.  Imagine getting on a Metro train in Bel Air and, an hour or so later, getting dropped off at Verizon Center?


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