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#521 BSLChrisStoner

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Posted 24 August 2017 - 11:38 PM

Think Trout would be a lock HOF if his career ended today Rob.  (He has more career fWAR than Puckett for instance.)

 

Without getting to Bonds, I'm not sure I'd have Trout above Junior in-terms of just pure talent.
 

Junior was obviously no offensive slouch (albeit his prime years were in a more offensive era vs. the Trout years prior to '17... this is a guess btw, not necessarily fact).... and was a great defensive player with the Mariners.

 

The metrics hated Jr's time with the Reds and WS... his defensive numbers are horrific. Clearly he hit a wall, and wasn't the same player with the Reds...  but that 10 year run to begin his career was tremendous. If the advanced defensive metrics were in place during those initial 10 years of his career, I wonder how much his career fWAR would be increased?

Overall, Jr might get my vote as the most talented MLB player I've seen.  Which obviously isn't the same as best career. 

 



Back to Bonds...

When looking at best MLB careers in this era....  it's impossible to get past his numbers. There so astronomical, it's just beyond belief.  As amazing as Trout has been... the numbers he'd have to continue to put up to equal Bonds' career numbers is just insane.



 



#522 mweb08

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Posted 24 August 2017 - 11:57 PM

Baseball lists:

 

Me:

 

20. Smoltz
19. McGwire
18. Schilling
17. Thomas
16. Piazza
15. Jeter
14. Griffey
13. Ripken
12. Bagwell
11. Chipper

10. Boggs

9. Rivera

8. Henderson

7. Pujols

6. Maddux

5. Pedro

4. Johnson

3. AROD

2. Clemens

1. Bonds

 

Rob:

 

20) MCab

19) Thomas

18) Jeter

17) Larkin

16) Smoltz

15) Moose

14) Schilling

13) Bagwell

12) Pedro

11) Chipper

10) Ripken

9) Boggs

8) Griffey Jr

7) Pujols

6) Maddux

5) R Johnson

4) Rickey

3) AROD

2) Clemens

1) Bonds

 

Our baseball rankings from the show.

 

I have to think about Trout and Kershaw more, but neither would be in my top 3 as of now. Kershaw would probably slot in around #10. Trout somewhere in the #4-7 range, but obviously I expect him to move up. 



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Posted 24 August 2017 - 11:59 PM

I liked and still do like the Rickey love from both of you.



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Posted 25 August 2017 - 05:40 AM

This is when it gets tough with these lists.

Am I rating the player on career accomplishments or best I have seen?

And then, keeping up with the consistency of that is also difficult.

If it's best I have seen, Trout is amongst top 10. If it's peak, he's easily top 10. If it's overall accomplishments, he has a long ways to go.

If I think about it more, I think I would have to have Tiger and Serena in the top 10 over Trout in the top 10 because career accomplishments have to matter at some point on these lists, no matter how you want to weigh it.
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Posted 25 August 2017 - 08:57 AM

I loved Rickey too but he had one year were he had 143 hits and tried stealing 172 times. He got caught 42 times that year, would be frustrating to watch lol.
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Posted 25 August 2017 - 09:12 AM

That's not a bad caught stealing rate, especially assuming that was a year that featured a lower slugging percentage.

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Posted 25 August 2017 - 09:19 AM

I think he would have been pretty damn fun to watch consistently.

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Posted 04 July 2018 - 09:26 PM

Trout continues to climb here. He's unreal.




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