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#21 Mackus

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 10:57 AM

Sure makes AJ's contract look better. Even after accounting for the ~$5M or so that his deal was discounted due to next year being an arbitration year.

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 10:58 AM

According to Baseball-Reference similarity scores, here are the 10 most comparable players to Andre Ethier through age 29:

1. Dmitri Young
2. Richie Zisk
3. Rondell White
4. Jacque Jones
5. Aubrey Huff
6. Bobby Higginson
7. Corey Hart
8. Ellis Valentine
9. Jim Edmonds
10. Tony Oliva

http://www.baseball-... ... an01.shtml

(I lifted this from http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/)

Not exactly murderers row.

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 11:30 AM

According to Baseball-Reference similarity scores, here are the 10 most comparable players to Andre Ethier through age 29:

1. Dmitri Young
2. Richie Zisk
3. Rondell White
4. Jacque Jones
5. Aubrey Huff
6. Bobby Higginson
7. Corey Hart
8. Ellis Valentine
9. Jim Edmonds
10. Tony Oliva

http://www.baseball-... ... an01.shtml

(I lifted this from http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/)

Not exactly murderers row.

My thoughts with the murders row comment. I guess the Dodgers feel like that they can compete in the short-term with him. If they win the World Series during his contract, I'd feel pretty good.
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Posted 12 June 2012 - 11:36 AM


Not exactly murderers row.

My thoughts with the murders row comment. I guess the Dodgers feel like that they can compete in the short-term with him. If they win the World Series during his contract, I'd feel pretty good.

They could probably sign Swisher for half this contract and get the same or better production.

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 11:57 AM


My thoughts with the murders row comment. I guess the Dodgers feel like that they can compete in the short-term with him. If they win the World Series during his contract, I'd feel pretty good.

They could probably sign Swisher for half this contract and get the same or better production.



I'm just basing this on the eye test and without doing any research but I would guess that Ethier's adjusted stats are more impressive than Swisher's based on home park. I think some defensive metrics rate Swisher well but I think Ethier is better defensively as well.

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 03:14 PM

Swisher has easily had the much more productive ML career.

His defense is on par with Ethier, who isn't great out there although his defense the last season and a half is improved.

I would say that he is likely the better defender but Swisher is the overall more productive player and will sign for a lot less money than what AE just got.

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 03:44 PM

I like Ethier a fair amount, but I don't see how this deal can be justified.

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 03:54 PM

I like Ethier a fair amount, but I don't see how this deal can be justified.

I'm in the same position. I like him...but that contract just seems out of this world stupid.

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 04:23 PM

I like Ethier a fair amount, but I don't see how this deal can be justified.


They're planning on killing all left-handed pitchers in baseball. So there's that.
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Posted 13 June 2012 - 11:02 AM

Yikes. I guess Magic Johnson has quite the pocketbook.

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 02:31 PM

They are paying more money per year well into his 30s than he has ever been worth in any season in his prime years.

That's pretty remarkable... sounds like an example of new-owner-itis disease...

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 02:35 PM

That's pretty remarkable... sounds like an example of new-owner-itis disease...


Yeah, hard to think they won't regret this deal in some capacity. Although if they're winning, it's easy to forget about bad contracts.

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 03:52 PM

Yeah, hard to think they won't regret this deal in some capacity. Although if they're winning, it's easy to forget about bad contracts.

when you pay $2.15 billion, you probably don't mind spending this kind of $$$ to try to win immediately.

And no one cares about bad contracts when you are winning. So if the Dodgers win, won't be an issue.
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Posted 25 July 2012 - 10:18 AM

NBC Sports / Hardball Talk: Dodgers swing for fences, land Hanley
http://hardballtalk....z-from-marlins/

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 09:35 AM

Multiple reports saying the Dodgers are close to acquiring Victorino.

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 10:18 AM

Dominic Brown called up for the Phils seems to confirm Victorino being traded...
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Posted 26 August 2012 - 05:01 PM

CBS Sports: Dodgers wasting no time throwing around big bucks
http://www.cbssports...round-big-bucks

Lots of talk on the board about the trade from the Red Sox perspective. Some thoughts on the Dodgers.

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Posted 26 August 2012 - 05:05 PM

CBS Sports: Dodgers wasting no time throwing around big bucks
http://www.cbssports...round-big-bucks

Lots of talk on the board about the trade from the Red Sox perspective. Some thoughts on the Dodgers.


Even with their willingness to spend, it's hard to believe that they couldn't have avoided giving up much of the value they did to take on those contracts. I'd argue the collection of players they got collectively had virtually no trade value.

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Posted 26 August 2012 - 05:13 PM

Even with their willingness to spend, it's hard to believe that they couldn't have avoided giving up much of the value they did to take on those contracts. I'd argue the collection of players they got collectively had virtually no trade value.


After this trade, I seriously doubt the decision making of the Dodgers brass. I think it's terrible to take on the money they did for the talent they got back, made even worse by what they gave up.
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Posted 26 August 2012 - 05:22 PM

After this trade, I seriously doubt the decision making of the Dodgers brass. I think it's terrible to take on the money they did for the talent they got back, made even worse by what they gave up.

They didn't really give up that much. And those were some huge selection contracts but we aren't talking about some 40 year old men. These guys are still in their primes and although expensive will bring some value. It's the same as signing 3 free agents these guys just weren't in the fa market.
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