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BSL: The Best All Time Orioles Seasons at Every Position


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#1 BSLMattKory

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Posted 26 April 2020 - 06:27 PM

BSL: The Best All Time Orioles Seasons at Every Position (Infield)

https://www.baltimor...sition-infield/


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Posted 27 April 2020 - 08:07 AM

Interesting stuff.



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Posted 27 April 2020 - 08:13 AM

I was surprised to not see Alomar mentioned at 2B... but then I thought about your choices... and, yeah, you're right... 


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Posted 27 April 2020 - 10:00 AM

I was surprised to not see Alomar mentioned at 2B... but then I thought about your choices... and, yeah, you're right... 

 

I think the 1B, SS and 3B seasons are pretty easy.  I guess you can have a 1B discussion, but it's reasonable enough when you compare it.

 

I'm a BRob fan so I have no issue supporting his amazing 2005 season and the defensive distinction between Grich and BRob is fair given (especially) the challenges of defensive metrics...

 

...but it's hard not to pick Alomar's 1996 season.  .328/.411/.527 slash with 43-2B, 4-3B and 22-HR, 17of23 in SB only struck out 65 times in 700 PAs (ok, 699), 136 OPS+ and won GG and SS at the position.



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Posted 27 April 2020 - 10:02 AM

An interesting angle to take on all of this would be maybe look at the top 5 seasons and consider "next guy to break into the top 5". 



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Posted 27 April 2020 - 10:31 AM

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...but it's hard not to pick Alomar's 1996 season.  .328/.411/.527 slash with 43-2B, 4-3B and 22-HR, 17of23 in SB only struck out 65 times in 700 PAs (ok, 699), 136 OPS+ and won GG and SS at the position.

 

Alomar '96 would be my choice. He was a monster. 



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Posted 27 April 2020 - 10:43 AM

Alomar '96 would be my choice. He was a monster. 

 

Oh, if you're gonna pick one, that's the one...


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Posted 27 April 2020 - 01:34 PM

Alomar '96 would be my choice. He was a monster. 

 

....that season was just incrementally better than BRob in just about every category.

 

The only argument against it would be something like 'league adjustment' where Alomar '96 was an OPS+ of 136 and BRob '05 was 139.

 

Of course Alomar's career was more steady at the higher level so you could have a 'likely-hood to deliver that season' discussion but I also like BRob better, so there's that.



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Posted 27 April 2020 - 01:35 PM

Oh, if you're gonna pick one, that's the one...

 

....that is the topic.  Best season (not player) at each position.



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Posted 27 April 2020 - 01:40 PM

Alomar '96 would be my choice. He was a monster. 

He was great that year.  He is also as close defensively to Bobby Grich as any other second baseman we have had.  They were both excellent.


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Posted 27 April 2020 - 02:07 PM

....that is the topic.  Best season (not player) at each position.

 

I understand that.


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Posted 27 April 2020 - 03:47 PM

I was surprised to not see Alomar mentioned at 2B... but then I thought about your choices... and, yeah, you're right..

Oh, if you're gonna pick one, that's the one...

I understand that.

 

...maybe I was confused.



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Posted 27 April 2020 - 03:52 PM

...maybe I was confused.

 

I was trying to say that '96 is the Alomar year to pick if you're gonna pick an Alomar year...


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Posted 27 April 2020 - 04:45 PM

I was trying to say that '96 is the Alomar year to pick if you're gonna pick an Alomar year...

 

Ok, my bad,...



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Posted 27 April 2020 - 07:21 PM

Be interesting to see some of the other positions, particularly starting pitching. I immediately thought of Steve Stone in 1980 (25-7, 3.23 ERA, AL Cy Young), but after checking some of his other peripherals, I'm not sure it was the single-greatest season by an Oriole starter. I'm thinking either Jim Palmer in 1975 or Mike Cuellar in 1969 top Stone statistically.



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Posted 27 April 2020 - 08:40 PM

Be interesting to see some of the other positions, particularly starting pitching. I immediately thought of Steve Stone in 1980 (25-7, 3.23 ERA, AL Cy Young), but after checking some of his other peripherals, I'm not sure it was the single-greatest season by an Oriole starter. I'm thinking either Jim Palmer in 1975 or Mike Cuellar in 1969 top Stone statistically.

Dave McNally 1968 is a possibility too.


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Posted 20 May 2020 - 06:28 AM

BSL: The Best All-Time Orioles Seasons At Every Position (OF, C, DH)
https://www.baltimor...two-dh-catcher/


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Posted 20 May 2020 - 10:42 AM

Blair...defense was just too good.



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Posted 20 May 2020 - 12:59 PM

Blair...defense was just too good.

 

Yeah, nothing against Brady, but it's a legend vs non-legend comparison...  the legend part should count for something...


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Posted 20 May 2020 - 01:23 PM


Yeah, nothing against Brady, but it's a legend vs non-legend comparison... the legend part should count for something...

I'll assume you mean Orioles legend but they ultimately provided similar value on the field to the organization.
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