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#1 ChaosLex

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Posted 02 March 2020 - 07:07 AM

Some of my friends work in the medical field and they feel it's all much ado about nothing. Still, we've had 2 deaths confirmed in the country now and some people are freaking out.

 

On a scale of 1-10, how concerned are you with the latest illness/disease that's going to end humanity as we know it? :-)


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Posted 02 March 2020 - 07:10 AM

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It’s another thing being completely blown out of proportion by the media.

It’s bs that it got out of the lab in China and it’s not something you just gloss over but it’s something like 2% of the people who get it die from it and of those 2%, you wonder how many would die from a “normal flu” anyway?

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Posted 02 March 2020 - 07:20 AM

The potential unknown factors make it at least a 5. From what we know so far I get why some people arent sweating it but maybe the virus lies dormant for a few months before it turns us into zombies.

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Posted 02 March 2020 - 07:43 AM

It has a 2% mortality rate, which is significantly higher than the normal flu...but still not 'high.'

More of an issue for old, young, and those with other health issues.


Far bigger issue is impact on the interconnected world economy.

It's not being falsely blown up. The economic impact could be immense.
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Posted 02 March 2020 - 08:33 AM

My mom has MS and turns 70 in two months. I’m terrified about her getting it
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Posted 02 March 2020 - 08:42 AM

Some of my friends work in the medical field and they feel it's all much ado about nothing. Still, we've had 2 deaths confirmed in the country now and some people are freaking out.

 

On a scale of 1-10, how concerned are you with the latest illness/disease that's going to end humanity as we know it? :smile:

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Zika virus supposed to have this huge impact on the Rio Olympics and then all of a sudden, no one that went caught anything. Ebola virus was big right around the time of one of the major police incidents. (Ferguson, or Baltimore, I can't remember). But I do remember that all of sudden Ebola wasn't a thing anymore. 


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Posted 02 March 2020 - 08:47 AM

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Taking it seriously but not freaking out about it. Treating it like a bad flu season, wash hands frequently etc. Only real concern is my son has had pre-asthma stuff but we have an inhaler to be safe.

Of the 2% death rate how much of that is young, otherwise healthy people? I’m not sure.
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Posted 02 March 2020 - 08:49 AM

I'm definitely very worried for people like Pedro - that's terrifying for sure. That's why it can't be completely ignored.

 

Also, the potential impact this could have on the election is notable. Which ties in to the economic impact. 

 

Overall, though, I'm tired of the hysteria involved with a fraction of the world population being impacted by a virus with a mortality rate similar to regular influenza. 


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Posted 02 March 2020 - 09:01 AM

Overall, though, I'm tired of the hysteria involved with a fraction of the world population being impacted by a virus with a mortality rate similar to regular influenza. 


Just for the record, the regular flu mortality rate is 0.1%.   So from that to 2% is a jump. 
Past that, I agree that we all don't need to be, "We're all going to die, omg!" 

 



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Posted 02 March 2020 - 09:03 AM


Just for the record, the regular flu mortality rate is 0.1%.   So from that to 2% is a jump. 
Past that, I agree that we all don't need to be, "We're all going to die, omg!" 

 

Right, that's very similar rates, as I said. 


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Posted 02 March 2020 - 09:06 AM

It's impacted .000018% of the world population (90,000 cases to a world population of 5 billion). Meanwhile, regular influenza has impacted .003% of the world population this season (15 million cases). Just some perspective.


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Posted 02 March 2020 - 09:18 AM

Right, that's very similar rates, as I said. 


Okay, I think it's notable statistical leap... but in-general I feel the same. 

 

 

It's impacted .000018% of the world population (90,000 cases to a world population of 5 billion). Meanwhile, regular influenza has impacted .003% of the world population this season (15 million cases). Just some perspective.


Completely fair to say there is some level of hysteria not matching the current level of exposure. 

I do think it's also completely fair to be raising all the alarms giving how this can impact the world economy. 



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Posted 02 March 2020 - 09:30 AM

It's also in a very early stage, so it's safe to say that it will affect significantly more people by the time we are in the clear.

That said, I'm not freaking out for myself, but I am more concerned for those that are more vulnerable.

It will also be interesting / potentially scary to see how we react as a country if this becomes a significant issue here. For instance, Japan has shut down schools for a month.

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Posted 02 March 2020 - 09:35 AM

It's also in a very early stage, so it's safe to say that it will affect significantly more people by the time we are in the clear.

That said, I'm not freaking out for myself, but I am more concerned for those that are more vulnerable.

It will also be interesting / potentially scary to see how we react as a country if this becomes a significant issue here. For instance, Japan has shut down schools for a month.

Absolutely. One thing I've heard people who live paycheck-to-paycheck discuss is how even if they have symptoms, they don't want to get checked out because of fear of a multi-week quarantine and the catastrophic effect it would have to not get paid after their sick days run out. 


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Posted 02 March 2020 - 09:37 AM


Okay, I think it's notable statistical leap... but in-general I feel the same. 

 

 


Completely fair to say there is some level of hysteria not matching the current level of exposure. 

I do think it's also completely fair to be raising all the alarms giving how this can impact the world economy. 

I guess my point is, even if it rose to the level of regular influenza, it'd still be .003% of the world population. I just think the hysteria is waaaayyyyyyyy overblown. 


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Posted 02 March 2020 - 09:38 AM

Absolutely. One thing I've heard people who live paycheck-to-paycheck discuss is how even if they have symptoms, they don't want to get checked out because of fear of a multi-week quarantine and the catastrophic effect it would have to not get paid after their sick days run out.


That and the health care bills.

So of course that rational fear that you mention will lead to the virus spreading more.

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Posted 02 March 2020 - 09:59 AM

Absolutely. One thing I've heard people who live paycheck-to-paycheck discuss is how even if they have symptoms, they don't want to get checked out because of fear of a multi-week quarantine and the catastrophic effect it would have to not get paid after their sick days run out. 


Yep, the problem isn't that they don't have a valid point, it's that the flip side of it is when they don't do it out of fear of going broke or potentially losing their jobs (in some industries), but then they go in and spread it and it multiplies so that thousands of people have it now, and you can't stop it anymore.

 

It's the same thing with parents and sick kids. You hear ALL the time, oh, it didn't seem THAT serious, and I can't take off work, so I sent them in. Now 300 kids in that school catch whatever and spread it to their families to more people and some of them really CAN'T take off work. Some people just have a work ethic that won't let them do the smart thing and take off for themselves or their kids, and just make everything so much worse.


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Posted 02 March 2020 - 10:04 AM

It's also in a very early stage, so it's safe to say that it will affect significantly more people by the time we are in the clear.

That said, I'm not freaking out for myself, but I am more concerned for those that are more vulnerable.

It will also be interesting / potentially scary to see how we react as a country if this becomes a significant issue here. For instance, Japan has shut down schools for a month.

I worry about this. I'm in my last semester at Towson. They already had one professor removed because they thought he had it, and he didn't. (I guess he's back, didn't hear a follow up). They had a group of students and staff members studying abroad in Italy return early and are currently in quarantine. 

 

They're being proactive. But i wonder if they will jump the gun. On the other hand, if they close campus and the switch the curriculum to online, I won't be mad about that. 


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Posted 02 March 2020 - 10:17 AM

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It’s another thing being completely blown out of proportion by the media.

It’s bs that it got out of the lab in China and it’s not something you just gloss over but it’s something like 2% of the people who get it die from it and of those 2%, you wonder how many would die from a “normal flu” anyway?



I could potentially make this number higher because of my kids.



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Posted 02 March 2020 - 10:42 AM

I guess my point is, even if it rose to the level of regular influenza, it'd still be .003% of the world population. I just think the hysteria is waaaayyyyyyyy overblown. 

 

https://www.nytimes....avirus-flu.html

 

This article says that a 2% fatality rate is equivalent to the 1918 influenza, which is...not ideal. But medical science is a lot more advanced than it was a century ago, as is the ability of countries to react to new information and outbreaks. So I'm honestly not all that worried.

 

I think getting worked up in either direction ("We're all gonna die!" OR "Blown out of proportion!") is a bad idea. The media isn't helping, the current leadership isn't helping, and regular people doing things like buying cases of facemasks and avoiding Asian businesses isn't helping.


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