I can't remember if Elias put a time stamp on his plan, I doubt he did. You can't over promise/under deliver if you don't actually make any promises.
I don't think we've seen anything other than "patience" and "it will be worth it".
That makes 2023 or 2024 the magic year.
This is going to deserve it's own thread, but following the Astros' 84 win, 3rd place season (the 6th season in 'the process')...'something' happened.
The Astros went from a good OPS team to the best OPS team (in MLB) while simultaneously going from the team that strikes out the most to the team that strikes out the least. That's the '15-'16 season versus the '17-'19 season and the change happened between the '16 and '17 seasons.
They are talking about this every morning on MLB Radio and there's a general belief that Luhnow, Hinch and Cora (btw, the RedSox are getting roped in for their 2018 season...this thing is following Cora) are going to get suspensions at some level in addition to other material team penalties (draft picks, IFA, money, whatever).
If the success touted from the rebuilding process is deemed a product of cheating by MLB, will that change anyone's opinion of the merits of this process? Again, probably deserves it's own thread. Sounds like they will announce something sooner than later.