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#41 hallas

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Posted 11 December 2019 - 04:31 PM

This is a great point. But I think the reason for that was that they assigned a guy to Lamar on every play. And they had it set to flip in what direction he went. Plus they had an extra guy on many snaps in the box. So it's not that they didn't fall for the fakes, when you've got a free man, a fake doesn't matter. But you need 8-9+ in the box to do this.

That's hard to do from a front 7 perspective and a back 4 as well. If teams want to do this, I think we'll start to see a lot more deep TDs like we did from Hurst start to surface.

Teams with a good secondary can get away with stacking the box because the 1 on 1 doesn’t really hurt them. NE San Fran and Buffalo are top 3 pass defenses. NE we scored some points on defense as well, so the 37 points overstates the offense’s success.

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Posted 11 December 2019 - 04:37 PM

Teams with a good secondary can get away with stacking the box because the 1 on 1 doesn’t really hurt them. NE San Fran and Buffalo are top 3 pass defenses. NE we scored some points on defense as well, so the 37 points overstates the offense’s success.

The Ravens offense won the Pats game, with 2 long and time consuming drives in the second half.


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#43 mdrunning

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Posted 11 December 2019 - 04:44 PM

The Ravens offense won the Pats game, with 2 long and time consuming drives in the second half.

Their defense, however, turned the tide with the fumble recovery/TD on Edelman. If that doesn't happen, New England likely scores and takes the lead.



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Posted 11 December 2019 - 05:20 PM

I'm curious what made the Rams game such an outlier though, that's a good defense and that was a home prime time game for them. We also toasted the Pats, too. That's the 1st and 6th overall defenses according to DVOA. 

 

So I think there is more to it than just discipline and being good. 

I think it's a combination of several things including the scheme, but regarding talent it comes down to 2 positions in particular - DL and CBs. 

 

A good DL is needed to control the LoS and not let the Ravens just win up front. Good CBs are needed to take away receivers in tight man coverage which lets the defense crowd the box. The Bills, Steelers and Niners have all 3 of those. The Pats are great on the back end, but their DL is not elite. The Rams have a couple elite players but are built more to take away the pass.


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#45 jamesdean

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Posted 11 December 2019 - 07:09 PM

I still think the jury's out on whether they've figured out how to contain Lamar because the passing conditions the past two weeks were abysmal, making the Ravens more one-dimensional.  We'll get a better idea tomorrow night since there will be little wind and it will be dry.  


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Posted 11 December 2019 - 07:17 PM

I still think the jury's out on whether they've figured out how to contain Lamar because the passing conditions the past two weeks were abysmal, making the Ravens more one-dimensional.  We'll get a better idea tomorrow night since there will be little wind and it will be dry.  

 

I agree with jamesdean and Gabe in all of this too. The adverse weather really slowed down the offenses, that being said, it did on both sides of the ball. So I don't think it's to a serious disadvantage to the Ravens.

 

But I also think the Ravens need to be ready to play through some weather and still take more shots against teams that pack the box. 


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Posted 12 December 2019 - 02:33 AM

Great piece, Jordan.

 

You have an open invite to do an offense or defense podcast review with me if you would like to.



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Posted 12 December 2019 - 04:45 PM

I agree with jamesdean and Gabe in all of this too. The adverse weather really slowed down the offenses, that being said, it did on both sides of the ball. So I don't think it's to a serious disadvantage to the Ravens.

But I also think the Ravens need to be ready to play through some weather and still take more shots against teams that pack the box.



Exactly. If you're playing in January, you have to be ready to play in any weather conditions.

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Posted 12 December 2019 - 04:52 PM

Exactly. If you're playing in January, you have to be ready to play in any weather conditions.

 

Average temp in Miami in February is 75 deg.  I think we'll be able to tough that out :)


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Posted 12 December 2019 - 05:02 PM

Average temp in Miami in February is 75 deg.  I think we'll be able to tough that out :)

 

You know, it'll be interesting to see what the offense does tonight in the air. The wind/rain seemed to be a big effect on the offense. Was it specifically the rain/wind or would just "cold" be OK. 



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Posted 12 December 2019 - 05:29 PM

Average temp in Miami in February is 75 deg. I think we'll be able to tough that out :)


Gotta get past January first. Maryland winters can be very unpredictable.

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Posted 12 December 2019 - 06:09 PM

You know, it'll be interesting to see what the offense does tonight in the air. The wind/rain seemed to be a big effect on the offense. Was it specifically the rain/wind or would just "cold" be OK.


Said pretty much the same thing to a colleague today. Hoping the last two games of just adequate offense were a combination of really good defense and adverse weather.




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