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2019 Game 13: 12/8 @Buffalo 1PM


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#321 russsnyder

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Posted 08 December 2019 - 04:13 PM

Ugly wins count too.


Better than an ugly loss!

#322 russsnyder

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Posted 08 December 2019 - 04:13 PM

Allen was beaten up.

#323 JStruds

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Posted 08 December 2019 - 04:14 PM

Better than an ugly loss!


Yes sir.

#324 fishteacher

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Posted 08 December 2019 - 04:15 PM

Wins is wins!  Move on!  


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#325 Slidemaster

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Posted 08 December 2019 - 04:16 PM

Playing a good defense on the road in the bitter cold is hard.

A win is a win is a win. Take it and get the hell out of there.
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#326 Mashed Potatoes

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Posted 08 December 2019 - 04:18 PM

This is a mean thing to say, but Jefferson's injury is one of the best things that happened to the Ravens D.


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#327 Biggsy

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Posted 08 December 2019 - 04:25 PM

This is a mean thing to say, but Jefferson's injury is one of the best things that happened to the Ravens D.



I said it when it happened. I have no clue how the coaches couldn't see how terrible he was.

#328 BaltBird 24

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Posted 08 December 2019 - 04:32 PM

Surely there’s no way Jefferson can be brought back next year with the way Clark has filled in, right?!

#329 bmore_ken

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Posted 08 December 2019 - 04:52 PM

Ugly wins count too.

I'll take it



#330 SportsGuy

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Posted 08 December 2019 - 04:55 PM

You've got to be kidding me.


https://twitter.com/...664874230214657

#331 Roll Tide

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Posted 08 December 2019 - 05:00 PM

The 15 yarders seemed uncalled for in the final series and the one on Thomas was bs also.
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#332 JStruds

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Posted 08 December 2019 - 05:28 PM

https://twitter.com/...664874230214657


Let it go Rob. The subject is overblown enough already.

#333 cprenegade

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Posted 08 December 2019 - 07:02 PM

Quite frankly I didn't see anything wrong with the comment either. It wasn't derogatory towards Jackson. Richard Sherman defended Ryan and even Harbaugh brushed it off. But as soon as I heard it I knew somebody would find it offensive and Tim Ryan should have known it too and been a little more careful with his description. It's just the world we live in today. People are hyper sensitive to any comment that involves race and instantly look to label you for it. As a broadcaster Ryan should have been aware of that.

As for the game, these last two weeks were more impressive to me than any of the blowouts the Ravens have had this year. These are the type of games you are more likely to play in the playoffs. Finding ways to win close games by closing out the game on a drive leading to a winning FG, or making a 4th down stop to deny a game tying TD say more to me than running up big scores. That is what you are probably going to have to do come playoff time.
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#334 jamesdean

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Posted 08 December 2019 - 07:29 PM

Quite frankly I didn't see anything wrong with the comment either. It wasn't derogatory towards Jackson. Richard Sherman defended Ryan and even Harbaugh brushed it off. But as soon as I heard it I knew somebody would find it offensive and Tim Ryan should have known it too and been a little more careful with his description. It's just the world we live in today. People are hyper sensitive to any comment that involves race and instantly look to label you for it. As a broadcaster Ryan should have been aware of that.

As for the game, these last two weeks were more impressive to me than any of the blowouts the Ravens have had this year. These are the type of games you are more likely to play in the playoffs. Finding ways to win close games by closing out the game on a drive leading to a winning FG, or making a 4th down stop to deny a game tying TD say more to me than running up big scores. That is what you are probably going to have to do come playoff time.

Sorry buddy...I'll take the blowouts any day.   :cool:


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#335 jamesdean

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Posted 08 December 2019 - 07:35 PM

The 15 yarders seemed uncalled for in the final series and the one on Thomas was bs also.

I just grow so weary of the constant flags, especially the roughing the passer calls.  Granted, Lamar got one today but usually, the contact is so benign and inconsequential, regardless of who's benefiting.  I know there's not a whole lot anyone can do about it until the season's over but the NFL really needs to address the kind of negative impact officiating is having on the games.  Unless the foul is blatant and deliberate, let the players do their thing.  It's just getting beyond ridiculous. 



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Posted 08 December 2019 - 07:50 PM

Quite frankly I didn't see anything wrong with the comment either. It wasn't derogatory towards Jackson. Richard Sherman defended Ryan and even Harbaugh brushed it off. But as soon as I heard it I knew somebody would find it offensive and Tim Ryan should have known it too and been a little more careful with his description. It's just the world we live in today. People are hyper sensitive to any comment that involves race and instantly look to label you for it. As a broadcaster Ryan should have been aware of that.

As for the game, these last two weeks were more impressive to me than any of the blowouts the Ravens have had this year. These are the type of games you are more likely to play in the playoffs. Finding ways to win close games by closing out the game on a drive leading to a winning FG, or making a 4th down stop to deny a game tying TD say more to me than running up big scores. That is what you are probably going to have to do come playoff time.


At this point, if you are white and bring up anything related to race, someone will get offended. Sometimes that offense is warranted. Other times it won't be. I say that as someone who leans left-of-center.

#337 85Knight

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Posted 08 December 2019 - 10:05 PM

At this point, if you are white and bring up anything related to race, someone will get offended. Sometimes that offense is warranted. Other times it won't be. I say that as someone who leans left-of-center.


It was racially insensitive but not racist but I'm not sure a black guy could have gotten away with a comment like that about a white player. To me it was just odd because I never thought about anything like that being a factor in a football game.

#338 cprenegade

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Posted 08 December 2019 - 10:43 PM

It was racially insensitive but not racist but I'm not sure a black guy could have gotten away with a comment like that about a white player. To me it was just odd because I never thought about anything like that being a factor in a football game.

 

I never thought about it either but I can see where it is a legitimate point to raise.  But I think what makes that play so hard to read more than that is the way he does it.  Most QBs that keep the ball do the fake and then take off running which naturally attracts the defense to go after them.  Jackson does the fake and then pauses, which keeps the defense focused on the guy going into the line.  Only after the pause does he make his move after the defense has started to commit to the RB.  That throws the defense off more than the ball blending with his hands.  It's the pause that creates the deception and forces the defense to commit more on the RB than Jackson.  When you play Jackson your defense is going to have to be disciplined to stay with him even when you think he has handed the ball off to protect against that possibility.  And that goes against the nature of what your defense does in every other game.  Imo, that's what makes that play work successfully more than anything else.  



#339 mdrunning

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Posted 08 December 2019 - 11:03 PM

It was racially insensitive but not racist but I'm not sure a black guy could have gotten away with a comment like that about a white player. To me it was just odd because I never thought about anything like that being a factor in a football game.

There are actually rules in baseball regarding pitchers wearing white sleeves. In high school (NFHS) rules, it's illegal, period. No white and no gray.

 

In professional ball, there are similar rules. MLB stipulates (and I don't think this has ever been changed) that sleeves have to match a color in the uniform that are not white. This is done, at least ostensibly, to prevent the pitcher from gaining an advantage against the hitter by making it harder to pick up the ball against the white under-garment. Umpire discretion may also be used if the opposing manager regards any part of the uniform to be a distraction.

 

Way back in the day, MLB pitchers used to take advantage of this rule all the time. If their shirt wasn't white enough, they'd use lye to make it almost blinding. This was particularly effective on laundry day. Since most ball parks were built into city blocks, there'd be a lot of laundry flapping in the breeze from the adjacent residences. If it happened to be mostly white sheets or linens, that could make it almost impossible to pick up the ball out of the pitcher's hand.


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#340 The Epic

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Posted 09 December 2019 - 10:54 AM

It was racially insensitive but not racist but I'm not sure a black guy could have gotten away with a comment like that about a white player. To me it was just odd because I never thought about anything like that being a factor in a football game.

 

This is pretty much where I am. I'm not offended, more than I'm just like...nah.

 

I thought the comment was funnier than it was offensive. As in, point-and-laugh funny.






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