Orioles trying to trade Bundy?
Posted 27 November 2019 - 11:44 AM
Posted 27 November 2019 - 11:50 AM
Will be interesting to see what sort of return they get for him. I would imagine there are other teams that see the talent and think they can do more with it than we have.
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Posted 27 November 2019 - 12:27 PM
Makes sense, but I wouldn't expect much coming back. I think ship has sailed as anything more than a back-end guy, but if anyone is willing to pay a bit of premium over that thinking they can harness the talent then it's a trade worth making.
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Posted 27 November 2019 - 12:44 PM
Can't imagine he'd bring much back.
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Posted 27 November 2019 - 01:01 PM
I"ll beat dude to the punch and say that I have zero interest in extending Bundy
I like buy low opportunities, but I just don't think there is enough upside with Bundy to justify the risk of him becoming another underwater contract. The buy low opportunity on Bundy is simply tendering him a contract this year and next. If you don't get something at least a little interesting for him you keep him and hope he breaks out and then is more valuable. That's the gamble I'd take with him. I'm not nearly confident enough to expect that breakout and want to have him locked up beyond his current service.
Posted 27 November 2019 - 01:07 PM
Makes sense. I talked about this in my recent article.
I guess it depends on how you define "not much" but I think something where we get 2 players that are in the 8-15 range in a good organization is possible.
Would be surprised by anything in the top 100.
Good time to perhaps take a chance on up and coming A ball guys...again, using the comp of Garcia and Lux I have used before.
Posted 27 November 2019 - 01:08 PM
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Posted 27 November 2019 - 01:17 PM
He's got no trade value. If they trade him for nothing, it's because they feel someone else can help us lose more games.
IMO, this is right, with the exception of being a cheaper option to continue the losing.
Posted 27 November 2019 - 03:06 PM
How'd we do Bundy dirty? I know the organization has a long history of being bad at developing just about everything. But I don't recall mistreating Bundy. He got hurt and we tried to let him avoid Tommy John, didn't work, so he lost some time. He had lots of setbacks coming back from that, I don't remember thinking any of them were from the team mishandling him.
The only thing I can think of is not letting him throw his cutter until 2017. And again, that was done out of caution.
Gausman they absolutely mishandled, IMO. Lots of examples for him of getting jerked around, moved up and down and have his role changed, and he still pitched through it and was good here until his velocity tapered off before he was traded. I jsut don't see Bundy as another example of Orioles failure. His relative disappointment is a much more typical tale.
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Posted 27 November 2019 - 03:12 PM
I think you could argue calling him up at all in 2012 might have been a bad move for his development and health. But he threw 29 pitches. I'm not sure that's got much to do with why he was injured to begin the next season.
Posted 28 November 2019 - 08:01 AM
Nobody really wants HRundy.
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Posted 28 November 2019 - 09:58 AM
My guess is that there's a number of teams out there that would want Bundy.
My guess is they'd like to get him for 2 international non-prospects.
Posted 28 November 2019 - 09:59 AM
Like every other decision, it just comes down to what you want the team to look like.
Performance will be more than Talent development and you need to figure out who you need inside of that process.
Posted 28 November 2019 - 10:25 PM
Here is an from Fansided from the Cubs side. I thought it would be interesting to stoke some conversation
Three package proposals from the Cubs per fansided
Im sure this is more than most are expecting for Bundy! I would be happy to take Happ to get Abbott and Jensen. I'm not sure how we get Jensen if he was the Cubs 2019 1st rounder in this deal.
According to MLB prospects list it would be their #7, #16 , and Happ
Thats #3 , 15, and #27 in their top 30. These guys all appear to be 2-3 years away
Schwarber & Norwood
Norwood is their #30 and already a reliever
I would take either of the 1st 2 deals and flat out refuse #3
Posted 29 November 2019 - 07:08 AM
I would be happy with Happ straight up.
Anything else is gravy.
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