First of all, I have had plenty of issues with Ken. He is a dishonest person in how he represents peoples opinions on a regular basis. He brings very little substance of his own. Most of his posts are bolding someone elses thoughts and saying, I agree with that or some variance of that. That is why my "language" towards him is what it is. He does this all the time. Its tiresome that his arguments are basically lies.
I mean, I refer you to this post by him:
Here is quoting a poster who is saying basically the same thing I did...."no one said can't", "improving more than I thought", etc...I literally said those things before cpgrenade did. Yet, he quotes him and thanks him for telling the truth and then basically calls me a liar. How am I supposed to respond to stupidity like that? He gets what he deserves.
As for this particular argument, slidemaster, you are just wrong. The wording absolutely matters. If you are going to have a discussion, the discussion should be based around facts, not points you are making up. I have absolutely stated I have serious doubts about Lamar (and still do). I have also stated several times that I feel that it was a great trade and one you always make. If I thought Lamar would never become anything and had no chance of improving, I wouldn't have stated that. I would have said that its an awful trade. I would said why are you throwing away a second round pick.
If you want to have an "i told you so" conversation (which I think its too early to have but whatever), what should be said is for those of you who have bashed lamar, said he was unlikely to be a good passer, etc...you appear to be wrong.
That is far different than saying, people said he 100% will never be anything. I am not going to sit here and try to figure out what people actually mean, especially when those people ROUTINELY lie about the stances being taken by people...or, if its not a lie, its a complete misunderstanding that shows awful reading comprehension.
So, because of that, I am going to focus on what the actual argument is and yes, their argument is terrible if they are going to argue something that wasn't said.