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#61 BSLSteveBirrer

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Posted 28 September 2019 - 11:21 AM

Steve, should companies just take HS grads with the right aptitudes and insert them into senior engineering positions or do you think maybe college and work experience would be required to build the skill sets they'll need to handle those senior engineering positions well.

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Posted 29 September 2019 - 01:09 PM

He didn’t hit at every level in the minors.

His career OPS in the minors was 800ish and he did that at advanced ages for the leagues he was in.

 

He had an .819 OPS throughout the minors, and that was heavily weighed down by one bad stop in A+ in 2014.    

You take out that stop and he had an .842 OPS.  He posted around 15% K rates every year except for his last year in the minors, and that seemed to jump with a change in approach, probably based on bad coaching considering he had 7% less K rate at the same level the previous year (2017 to 2016). In addition, he had 4 stops where he posted a 150 or better wRC+. 

 

Even in the caverns of Norfolk, he managed a 124 wRC+.

 

His WAR in the majors has been held down by him playing out of position, with the exception of last year when he had a particularly bad year. 

 

He isn't going to be a marketable superstar, but he is underrated, and I think he would be a consistent 3.5-4 WAR player in his actual position. 



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Posted 29 September 2019 - 01:21 PM

My hope is that they have Mancini on the ballclub for at least another 8 years, sign him to a somewhat team-friendly contract this offseason, and focus on other areas.    

He isn't going to be a marketable superstar, but he is underrated, and I think he would be a consistent 3.5-4 WAR player in his actual position. 

 

So what is the contract you extend him for?



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Posted 30 September 2019 - 04:52 PM

So what is the contract you extend him for?

 

I probably don't try to keep him for that whole time.  They have him through 2023, so I would try to buy him out on a team-friendly contract and add 2-3 years.  I really don't know what current contracts are in actual value for the market to project specific dollars. 



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Posted 30 September 2019 - 04:54 PM

They have him through 2022, not 2023.


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Posted 30 September 2019 - 05:00 PM

They have him through 2022, not 2023.

 

https://www.mlb.com/...-this-offseason

 

He could be wrong, but he gets paid to do this.....under question 3. 



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Posted 30 September 2019 - 05:02 PM

https://www.mlb.com/...-this-offseason

 

He could be wrong, but he gets paid to do this.....under question 3. 


Pretty sure he's wrong.  Seen FA after 2022 in numerous places.



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Posted 30 September 2019 - 05:09 PM

https://www.mlb.com/...-this-offseason
 
He could be wrong, but he gets paid to do this.....under question 3. 


Yea he’s wrong
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Posted 30 September 2019 - 05:23 PM

Yea he’s wrong

 

Ok, so 3 year extension and buy out his arb years.  That will take him through the age 33 season. 






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