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#481 BSLRobShields

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Posted 14 July 2019 - 09:15 AM

What I do think the summer league did, at least w/r/t Barrett is it showed you what he is likely to be this year.

But what he did in summer league doesn’t change from what should have been expected coming into this year.

He will get a lot of rebounds and probably get 4-7 assists per game.

He will have games where he lights it up and others where he really struggles.

I would expect his 3pt shooting to be around 30% and his FG % to be around 42%.

I expect him to average 18-21 ppg, 7ish boards and 5ish assists for the season.
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Posted 14 July 2019 - 09:23 AM


I'm sorry I asked for clarification.

Since I respect your opinions, it puzzled me that you made a lot of his summer league performance.
You acted like his initial poor performance in the first couple of summer league games was alarming.
When he had a good performance, "Glad he was able to look like a high level prospect."

I was just looking for you to expand on your thoughts.

Good or bad (performance), I don't think either is overly telling beyond the bolded point (which I've also said) that the play gives you an indication of how good they are in the moment.

Everything else you've mentioned here in this post makes a lot of sense....





I think you're making too much of my comments on RJ in Summer League. If it weren't for Rob acting like it was nothing, the comments would have been minimal.

But from watching him (I didn't watch him in college besides highlights), there are concerns. So these concerns were largely known to many people who had been watching him, but I hadn't. Besides the poor outside shooting, I would be concerned about his ability to get to the basket in the halfcourt as well as to create separation for jumpers. For instance, there was an end of quarter situation where he was isolating towards the top of the key, tried to create separation for a step back jumper, and it got blocked, and I don't mean the guy just got a hand on it, I mean he blocked the jumper in a way that you almost never see from the primary defender at that position on the court.

Now his offense in transition has been quite good from what I've seen as has his defensive rebounding.

We'll see how well he develops, but I am concerned that he doesn't seem that good at some of the things that made him a top prospect. However, I missed his best game, which perhaps would have alleviated some of my concerns.

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Posted 14 July 2019 - 09:28 AM

5 games is nothing. The idea that you are now championing a SSS like that as something is hilarious.

And the article you posted earlier really didn’t say much at all either.


You're the same guy that brags about how you didn't think Wieters would be a great hitter after the first time you saw him or something like that.

Well this is the first time I've really seen him play other than highlights, and it hasn't been encouraging. But again, I missed his best game, so perhaps I'd feel differently if I saw it.

And I'm not championing a small sample size, I'm saying it has some meaning from a statistical POV, and from a scouting POV, but it's not like it's the end all be all, or anything close to it.

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Posted 18 July 2019 - 08:30 PM

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Posted 08 August 2019 - 07:38 AM

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Posted 19 August 2019 - 03:25 PM

Interesting

 

https://sports.yahoo...39.html?src=rss


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Posted 19 August 2019 - 03:37 PM

Interesting

 

https://sports.yahoo...39.html?src=rss

 

Any clue how accurate this has been historically? Just generally curious...



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Posted 19 August 2019 - 03:38 PM

First time I have seen the survey.
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Posted 19 August 2019 - 03:40 PM

Ok..not so good:

https://www.espn.com...ing-best-career
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Posted 19 August 2019 - 03:43 PM

Players are surprisingly really bad at this type of stuff. Not just predictive, but even judging players in the moment.

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Posted 19 August 2019 - 04:13 PM

Players are surprisingly really bad at this type of stuff. Not just predictive, but even judging players in the moment.

 

I assume most rookies have just not seen the other guys play other than highlight reels, too? 

I wonder how much of this might go back to AAU ball and remembering what they've seen of guys, then, as well. 

 

But yeah, for guys that are always watching tape and always getting coached, etc. it does surprise me how poor player on player assessment is in a lot of sports. 



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Posted 19 August 2019 - 08:09 PM

I assume most rookies have just not seen the other guys play other than highlight reels, too? 

I wonder how much of this might go back to AAU ball and remembering what they've seen of guys, then, as well. 

 

But yeah, for guys that are always watching tape and always getting coached, etc. it does surprise me how poor player on player assessment is in a lot of sports. 

 

They probably at least got a look during summer league.

 

I'd say they are either bad at player evaluation, or they just don't take these surveys seriously. So they make up their own criteria, like which of their fellow rookies is most likable, or who wore the best suit on draft night.


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