Photo

NBA 2019-20 General Talk


  • Please log in to reply
625 replies to this topic

#21 mdrunning

mdrunning

    All Star

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 1,038 posts

Posted 15 June 2019 - 07:27 PM

At least the Lakers were able to bid adieu to the Ball family. 



#22 Pedro Cerrano

Pedro Cerrano

    SportsGuy's Muse

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 29,475 posts
  • LocationEllicott City, MD

Posted 15 June 2019 - 08:30 PM

Kyrie is a better player than Walker but I almost think Kemba would be a better fit

There is baseball, and occasionally there are other things of note

"Now OPS sucks.  Got it."

"Making his own olive brine is peak Mackus."

"I'm too hungover to watch a loss." - McNulty

@bopper33


#23 mweb08

mweb08

    HOF

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 25,594 posts
  • LocationRidgely's Delight

Posted 15 June 2019 - 10:49 PM

Tim Bontemps
The Pelicans will get the following picks from the Lakers, league sources tell ESPN:

No. 4 pick in 2019
Top-8 protected in 2021, becomes unprotected in ‘22
Unprotected swap in ‘23
Unprotected first in ‘24
Unprotected swap in ‘25

Tremendous haul for David Griffin & the Pelicans.

#24 mweb08

mweb08

    HOF

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 25,594 posts
  • LocationRidgely's Delight

Posted 15 June 2019 - 10:54 PM

Pretty steep price there and definitely some risk of becoming a Nets level bad deal if there's injuries and/or Davis leaves after next year.

Still glad to have landed Davis, but it seems that they could have held back some of what they gave up, especially Hart for next year and the pick swaps.

Pelicans are certainly setup really nicely for the future.

#25 BSLRobShields

BSLRobShields

    BSL Analyst

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 86,067 posts
  • LocationBaltimore

Posted 15 June 2019 - 11:56 PM

Pretty steep price there and definitely some risk of becoming a Nets level bad deal if there's injuries and/or Davis leaves after next year.

Still glad to have landed Davis, but it seems that they could have held back some of what they gave up, especially Hart for next year and the pick swaps.

Pelicans are certainly setup really nicely for the future.


I’m really interested in who they go with #4 this year.

The top 3 have been pretty clear cut...after that, it’s pretty up in the air.

But yes, it’s an excellent haul considering he is only signed for one more year and it seemed like a pretty limited market.

And if you are the Lakers, you make the move because he’s going to sign there and he’s an elite guy.

Great deal for both sides imo.
@BSLRobShields

#26 BSLRobShields

BSLRobShields

    BSL Analyst

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 86,067 posts
  • LocationBaltimore

Posted 15 June 2019 - 11:58 PM

Just saw that people are after certain guys in the draft, so NO could deal the 4th pick and drop in the first round and get more long term assets. That’s another option.
@BSLRobShields

#27 Pedro Cerrano

Pedro Cerrano

    SportsGuy's Muse

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 29,475 posts
  • LocationEllicott City, MD

Posted 16 June 2019 - 12:09 AM

Lmao. Barring injuries those picks after this year will all be late first rounders.

There is baseball, and occasionally there are other things of note

"Now OPS sucks.  Got it."

"Making his own olive brine is peak Mackus."

"I'm too hungover to watch a loss." - McNulty

@bopper33


#28 Pedro Cerrano

Pedro Cerrano

    SportsGuy's Muse

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 29,475 posts
  • LocationEllicott City, MD

Posted 16 June 2019 - 12:09 AM

Also lol at anyone who thinks Davis is leaving after this year

There is baseball, and occasionally there are other things of note

"Now OPS sucks.  Got it."

"Making his own olive brine is peak Mackus."

"I'm too hungover to watch a loss." - McNulty

@bopper33


#29 mdrunning

mdrunning

    All Star

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 1,038 posts

Posted 16 June 2019 - 12:35 AM

Kyrie is a better player than Walker but I almost think Kemba would be a better fit

The Lakers will likely have about $27.7 million in cap space available after the Davis trade officially goes through. That's not enough to sign either Kyrie or Kemba to max deals. If Davis waives his $4 million trade bonus, then they would have some $32 million in cap space. There are a couple of scenarios in which they could wind up with the needed cap space to sign a max player, but that would require cooperation from New Orleans.

 

Either way, they might be better served using that money to acquire several quality rotation-type players. 



#30 Pedro Cerrano

Pedro Cerrano

    SportsGuy's Muse

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 29,475 posts
  • LocationEllicott City, MD

Posted 16 June 2019 - 12:39 AM

The Lakers will have about $27.7 million in cap space available after July 1. That's not enough to sign either Kyrie or Kemba to max deals.


No way this is true. We have like three players under contract before any AD extension

There is baseball, and occasionally there are other things of note

"Now OPS sucks.  Got it."

"Making his own olive brine is peak Mackus."

"I'm too hungover to watch a loss." - McNulty

@bopper33


#31 mdrunning

mdrunning

    All Star

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 1,038 posts

Posted 16 June 2019 - 01:10 AM

No way this is true. We have like three players under contract before any AD extension

It is true. They have five players currently under contract right now-- Davis, Lebron, Kyle Kuzma, Mo Wagner and Isaac Bonga. They can get to $27.7 million provided they shed any non-guaranteed money and renounce all of their own free agents.

 

If Davis doesn't waive his trade bonus, that number could shrink to about $23 million. 



#32 BSLRobShields

BSLRobShields

    BSL Analyst

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 86,067 posts
  • LocationBaltimore

Posted 16 June 2019 - 07:48 AM

https://www.espn.com...kers-worst-move


This man is so delusional.
@BSLRobShields

#33 BSLRobShields

BSLRobShields

    BSL Analyst

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 86,067 posts
  • LocationBaltimore

Posted 16 June 2019 - 07:49 AM

I wonder if the Lakers will look at Paul? He is making a lot of money. But he is still good and you probably don’t have to trade much to get him. Obviously the James connection is there.

I believe his contract would end the same time as James as well.
@BSLRobShields

#34 BSLChrisStoner

BSLChrisStoner

    Owner

  • Administrators
  • 115,304 posts

Posted 16 June 2019 - 08:09 AM

I think the Lakers would be better off spreading their remaining money around and getting some depth vs one more star.

Will be fun if the Lakers / Pelicans face each other in the playoffs next year.

#35 BSLRobShields

BSLRobShields

    BSL Analyst

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 86,067 posts
  • LocationBaltimore

Posted 16 June 2019 - 09:28 AM

You don’t need 3 mega stars to win.

Those 2 and Kuzma is a great start.

So, I agree you don’t need to do that however, you do need to bring in a quality PG. that’s going to be costly.
@BSLRobShields

#36 BSLRobShields

BSLRobShields

    BSL Analyst

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 86,067 posts
  • LocationBaltimore

Posted 16 June 2019 - 09:31 AM

I just wonder if they have the right coach for that team? (Whether you are talking Vogel or Kidd)
@BSLRobShields

#37 mweb08

mweb08

    HOF

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 25,594 posts
  • LocationRidgely's Delight

Posted 16 June 2019 - 10:50 AM

I’m really interested in who they go with #4 this year.

The top 3 have been pretty clear cut...after that, it’s pretty up in the air.

But yes, it’s an excellent haul considering he is only signed for one more year and it seemed like a pretty limited market.

And if you are the Lakers, you make the move because he’s going to sign there and he’s an elite guy.

Great deal for both sides imo.


They might trade that pick, but many of the draft nerds I pay attention to don't agree about a clear cut top 3, more like clear cut top 2 and some good options in those next few slots.

#38 mweb08

mweb08

    HOF

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 25,594 posts
  • LocationRidgely's Delight

Posted 16 June 2019 - 11:03 AM

I think the Lakers would be better off spreading their remaining money around and getting some depth vs one more star.

Will be fun if the Lakers / Pelicans face each other in the playoffs next year.

Spreading the money around will likely make the most sense. And it should be spread to shooters. Brogdon would be great, but he's restricted.

JJ and/or Danny Green would also work. Terrence Ross is a likely cheaper version. Decent chance they bring back KCP too.Josh Hart would have been great to still have in this mix as well.

Pat Beverly and Seth Curry are two more intriguing options.

For more expensive potential options, three that make a lot of sense are Bojan Bogdanovic, Tobias Harris, and D'Angelo Russell.

They could also kick the tires on Boogie.
  • BSLChrisStoner likes this

#39 BSLRobShields

BSLRobShields

    BSL Analyst

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 86,067 posts
  • LocationBaltimore

Posted 16 June 2019 - 11:33 AM

They might trade that pick, but many of the draft nerds I pay attention to don't agree about a clear cut top 3, more like clear cut top 2 and some good options in those next few slots.


Yea there are some that think you take one of the PGs at 3, because of the way the game is played.
@BSLRobShields

#40 BSLRobShields

BSLRobShields

    BSL Analyst

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 86,067 posts
  • LocationBaltimore

Posted 16 June 2019 - 11:34 AM

Spreading the money around will likely make the most sense. And it should be spread to shooters. Brogdon would be great, but he's restricted.

JJ and/or Danny Green would also work. Terrence Ross is a likely cheaper version. Decent chance they bring back KCP too.Josh Hart would have been great to still have in this mix as well.

Pat Beverly and Seth Curry are two more intriguing options.

For more expensive potential options, three that make a lot of sense are Bojan Bogdanovic, Tobias Harris, and D'Angelo Russell.

They could also kick the tires on Boogie.

Brogdon would be a great addition.

Wonder if they would explore a Conley trade?
@BSLRobShields




0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users

Partners