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#61 Mackus

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Posted 24 October 2019 - 01:51 PM

I wouldn't do it.

 

I'd try to get a better, cheaper keeper. Even if that means getting back just one guy.

 

I am negotiating a Kamara for Thomas trade now. I can't keep Kamara beyond this year and I have L. Murray so Kamara can stay injured as far as I am concerned. Just like last year when Dalvin Cook was hurt and Murray cleaned up. Just need to iron out the throw-in players.

 

Problem is that the better, cheaper keepers all have value to their current teams in the playoff races.  I want to target guys that have limited or no rest-of-season value but do have keeper value.  Kerryon Johnson is ideal, or anyone else who suffers a season-ending injury.  I just wish he was a better player.

 

Adams is on a short-term injury, but that has reduced his value some.

 

There aren't a lot of better, cheaper keepers any longer in our league.  Limited unknown guys busting onto the scene recently.  Kamara is one, he's $30 next year.  But he's on a team going nowhere, so don't see much interest in his owner dealing him.  Same goes for Chubb, he'll be $25, but again on a bad team who has no incentive to trade.  James Conner is $21 next year but I'd rather have Thomas.



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Posted 24 October 2019 - 02:53 PM

Problem is that the better, cheaper keepers all have value to their current teams in the playoff races.  I want to target guys that have limited or no rest-of-season value but do have keeper value.  Kerryon Johnson is ideal, or anyone else who suffers a season-ending injury.  I just wish he was a better player.

 

Adams is on a short-term injury, but that has reduced his value some.

 

There aren't a lot of better, cheaper keepers any longer in our league.  Limited unknown guys busting onto the scene recently.  Kamara is one, he's $30 next year.  But he's on a team going nowhere, so don't see much interest in his owner dealing him.  Same goes for Chubb, he'll be $25, but again on a bad team who has no incentive to trade.  James Conner is $21 next year but I'd rather have Thomas.

I had edited my post after you quoted me.

 

I think it's a fair deal. So if there aren't any cheaper guys available, I'd do it.

 

Do your keepers not expire? You can only keep guys 2 years after drafting/adding them in my league which increases the need to trade guys who could still help you out this year, like Kamara for me.


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#63 Mackus

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Posted 24 October 2019 - 03:49 PM

I had edited my post after you quoted me.

 

I think it's a fair deal. So if there aren't any cheaper guys available, I'd do it.

 

Do your keepers not expire? You can only keep guys 2 years after drafting/adding them in my league which increases the need to trade guys who could still help you out this year, like Kamara for me.

 

No expiration.  You can keep anyone on your roster up to the keeper limit for $10 more than they cost the previous year.  

 

When you find a cheap guy who busts out, like Kamara or in the past I was the guy who scooped David Johnson, Odell Beckham, and Michael Thomas over a few year period, you have a massive asset.



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Posted 25 October 2019 - 07:48 AM

Yeah not sure I like non-expiring keepers.


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#65 Mackus

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Posted 25 October 2019 - 08:08 AM

Yeah not sure I like non-expiring keepers.

 

 

Most I could get him up to is $6 for next year.  So the trade would be:

 

Mackus trades Michael Thomas ($40 keeper for 2020)

Mackus gets DaVante Adams ($40 keeper for 2020), Kerryon Johnson ($33 keeper for 2020), and $6 auction budget

 

I'm leaning towards accepting.  Adams doesn't get as many yards or catches as Thomas (we are non-PPR) but he gets tons of TDs.  Double digits the last 3 seasons, though none so far this year.  



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Posted 25 October 2019 - 08:12 AM

Most I could get him up to is $6 for next year.  So the trade would be:

 

Mackus trades Michael Thomas ($40 keeper for 2020)

Mackus gets DaVante Adams ($40 keeper for 2020), Kerryon Johnson ($33 keeper for 2020), and $6 auction budget

 

I'm leaning towards accepting.  Adams doesn't get as many yards or catches as Thomas (we are non-PPR) but he gets tons of TDs.  Double digits the last 3 seasons, though none so far this year.  

I like the added value of getting Johnson in that deal, but I have never been crazy about Detroit RBs.

 

Still, I'd make the trade.


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Posted 25 October 2019 - 09:19 AM

Most I could get him up to is $6 for next year. So the trade would be:

Mackus trades Michael Thomas ($40 keeper for 2020)
Mackus gets DaVante Adams ($40 keeper for 2020), Kerryon Johnson ($33 keeper for 2020), and $6 auction budget

I'm leaning towards accepting. Adams doesn't get as many yards or catches as Thomas (we are non-PPR) but he gets tons of TDs. Double digits the last 3 seasons, though none so far this year.

TDs seem totally fluky. Like you just noted with Adams this year. AB last year, Mike Evans, Julio Jones in previous years.

Personally, I think Thomas is a far better receiver, and he’s locked in longer than Adams. Since it’s non-expiring keepers, you don’t want Adams to be a free agent signed by the Redskins or Dolphins. Lions RBs are gross. Coming off an ACL? I don’t know your league, but if Thomas/Adams are $40, KJ at $33 seems steep. What does the extra $6 get you in your league besides the obvious? Let you keep someone else you’d otherwise toss back?

It’s probably a fair trade. But I’d rather have Thomas long term.
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#68 Mackus

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Posted 25 October 2019 - 09:26 AM

TDs seem totally fluky. Like you just noted with Adams this year. AB last year, Mike Evans, Julio Jones in previous years.

Personally, I think Thomas is a far better receiver, and he’s locked in longer than Adams. Since it’s non-expiring keepers, you don’t want Adams to be a free agent signed by the Redskins or Dolphins. Lions RBs are gross. Coming off an ACL? I don’t know your league, but if Thomas/Adams are $40, KJ at $33 seems steep. What does the extra $6 get you in your league besides the obvious? Let you keep someone else you’d otherwise toss back?

It’s probably a fair trade. But I’d rather have Thomas long term.

 

Adams had double digit TDs three straight years before this seaosn thouh.  I agree that TDs are much flukier than yards, but some guys are more consistent.

 

Adams is signed thru 2021.  I'd keep him at $40 for 2020 and $50 for 2021 (assuming he has another big year) but wouldn't keep him at $60 in 2022 even if he was still with the Packers and a clear top-3 WR.  Same goes for Thomas, he'd be kept in 2020 and 2021, but very unlikely in 2022.

 

$33 for Johnson won't be much surplus value.  I think he'd likely go a little higher than that in auction, but not much.

If either Thomas or Adams were available at auction, they'd likely go for high $50s.  I got Zeke this year fro $58, Julio Jones went for $56, Dalvin Cook went for $54.  

 

I don't have a lot of current keeper options.  I have Thomas and Sony Michel ($26).  I have Darius Guice ($20) if he comes back strong but that's a long shot.  That's basically it.  So going 2-for-1 does help me a bit even if there isn't a lot fo surpplus value.  There should be some guys available I can trade for prior to the auction after this year though.

 

I've already accumulated an extra $70 for next year by trading away Zeke, Beckham, Mixon, H.Henry, and Diggs.  So I'm well set up for our $200/team auction.


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Posted 25 October 2019 - 10:26 AM

Got him up to $7 but I pulled the trigger.

 

I also like Thomas a bit more than Adams, but with the extra money and obtaining another guy worthy of keeping, I think it made sense.

 

Appreciate the advice Mike & Sean!



#70 Nigel Tufnel

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Posted 01 November 2019 - 09:29 AM

Lol, I turned on last night's game, and there was Kenyan Drake, one of my backups, for some reason playing for Arizona instead of Miami.  And doing really well!  And then I looked, and I had randomly put him in my starting lineup as a placeholder at the beginning of the week because other guys were on byes.  So that worked out pretty well. 

 

Unfortunately, I used the same combination of football knowledge and attention to detail when drafting the rest of my team, and probably won't get as lucky there.



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Posted 06 November 2019 - 09:16 AM

Any deep stash suggestions for 2020?  My team is dead for this year, so that gives me plenty of roster space to potentialy find a keeper for next year.

 

I've got Derrius Guice, Noah Fant, and AJ Brown already.

 

Any backup RBs that could end up getting the gig next year or something similar around the league that I'm not aware of?



#72 BSLMikeRandall

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Posted 06 November 2019 - 10:53 AM

Any deep stash suggestions for 2020? My team is dead for this year, so that gives me plenty of roster space to potentialy find a keeper for next year.

I've got Derrius Guice, Noah Fant, and AJ Brown already.

Any backup RBs that could end up getting the gig next year or something similar around the league that I'm not aware of?


Whoever has a high volume this year, grab their backup. Helps if they are also flashing well. I own Mattison from MIN in all my keeper leagues. Below the radar, Bonnafon from CAR, and CMC is a 2021 FA so a potential holdout candidate. Same for Fournette. Armstead or Ervin there. If for $1 you can get 4 starts, you’ll take it I guess.

Derrick Henry is a possible free agent, so Dion Lewis is a good stash. For WRs, Michael Gallup might be owned in your league but Cooper, Cobb, and Austin are all possible FAs. So Gallup is a good target, maybe to trade for if owned.
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Posted 06 November 2019 - 10:59 AM

I'm a huge fan of Gallup but have been unable to pry him from his owner, even though we made some trades.

 

I'll look into all the other guys.  Mattison is owned but the rest are available.



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Posted Yesterday, 09:13 PM

One of my fantasy teams featured Mike Evans: Left game with a hamstring. Derrius Guice: Left game with a knee. Josh Jacobs ruled out at game time so I put in Rashad Penny: Left game, out with a knee. 

 

Oh yeah, also overthought continuing to roll with Jameis Winston and his league leading INTs, so I started Ryan Fitzpatrick instead against NYJ. Winston outscored him by 30.5. 

 

Believe it or not, as long as Gurley basically doesn't score a TD tonight, I'll have a shot with Barkley tomorrow to still maybe win my match up. 


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Posted Yesterday, 09:27 PM

One of my fantasy teams featured Mike Evans: Left game with a hamstring. Derrius Guice: Left game with a knee. Josh Jacobs ruled out at game time so I put in Rashad Penny: Left game, out with a knee.

Oh yeah, also overthought continuing to roll with Jameis Winston and his league leading INTs, so I started Ryan Fitzpatrick instead against NYJ. Winston outscored him by 30.5.

Believe it or not, as long as Gurley basically doesn't score a TD tonight, I'll have a shot with Barkley tomorrow to still maybe win my match up.


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Posted Today, 07:07 AM

I still scored 101 points with Rodgers doing little and I’m up 32 points with the other guy having Saquon tonight.

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