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#181 BSLChrisStoner

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Posted 17 June 2019 - 02:57 PM

Just watching Davis bat, he looks like he's thinking about what he's going to eat after the game, and not at all about how to hit a baseball.


It's not that he doesn't care, but he is a guess hitter trapped in his head. 

When you lose confidence, and you are just guessing...  hard to do anything effective.  Also makes your reactions slower. 

When he showed basic effectiveness mid-April to mid-May you could see he went up with a sounder plan.  Shorter swing, better approach. More aggressive.  

When he gets trapped in his head, it's just a horrible thing to watch.... Steve Sax, Knoblach, Ankiel....  



#182 jamesdean

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Posted 18 June 2019 - 06:14 AM

Just watching Davis bat, he looks like he's thinking about what he's going to eat after the game, and not at all about how to hit a baseball.

Is he still looking at third base when the pitch is thrown? 



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Posted 18 June 2019 - 07:47 AM

It's time to let this little birdy free.

 

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#184 BSLMikeRandall

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Posted 18 June 2019 - 08:15 AM

Since going 0 for a billion....

 

125 AB, 26 H, 10 BB, 5 HR, 16 RBI.

 

.208/.288/.368  .656 OPS

 

Even if you eliminate the giant slump, he still sucks. He's in a two year slump.


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#185 Nigel Tufnel

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Posted 18 June 2019 - 08:29 AM

Every 7 games, the cost of releasing him drops by $1 million.  So, 72 games into the season, the price is below $82M...  at some point, that number will be small enough.



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Posted 18 June 2019 - 08:41 AM

I think he will be unceremoniously released in the offseason.


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#187 BSLBobPhelan

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Posted 18 June 2019 - 09:03 AM

I think he will be unceremoniously released in the offseason.


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Posted 18 June 2019 - 09:07 AM

Why are you even holding onto him at this point?

Has to be an ownership decision.
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Posted 18 June 2019 - 09:25 AM

Why are you even holding onto him at this point?

Has to be an ownership decision.

Could be.

 

But I think they view him like they would any other prospect: hope that he improves and you get some ROI.


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#190 Mackus

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Posted 18 June 2019 - 09:39 AM

Absolutely an ownership decision.

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Posted 18 June 2019 - 09:54 AM

Could be.

 

But I think they view him like they would any other prospect: hope that he improves and you get some ROI.

 

The thing is though, any prospect hitting .165 is doing so in the GCL.



#192 russsnyder

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Posted 18 June 2019 - 10:18 AM

Could be.

But I think they view him like they would any other prospect: hope that he improves and you get some ROI.


They haven't gotten very much ROI from Davis since he signed the contract. He has pretty much been this guy who can't hit for two years. It's hard to believe that he will find himself at this point. He's older, his bat is slower, and his confidence is shattered. I would be surprised if he finishes the season here. I think he is vulnerable to being DFAed once Dwight Smith Jr. and/or Stewart come off the IL. Their rehab assignments may buy him more time, but it's past time to get rid of him.

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Posted 18 June 2019 - 10:24 AM

And he shaved his beard. Obviously willing to try anything.

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Posted 18 June 2019 - 03:52 PM

Every 7 games, the cost of releasing him drops by $1 million.  So, 72 games into the season, the price is below $82M...  at some point, that number will be small enough.

This is the only explanation that makes sense, on the surface anyway. I guess there could be some sort of motivation from a business perspective. Or even an unlikely human perspective, where they just want to let him play through it, because he's being paid no matter what, and he isn't hurting an otherwise competitive team. It's just odd that the team feels like it makes more sense to trot him out there for X number of games, until they find the sweet spot, rather than just accept their situation and let him go.  


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#195 JoyinMudville

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Posted 18 June 2019 - 09:29 PM

Why are you even holding onto him at this point?

Has to be an ownership decision.

There is no logical reason for him to be on this roster and he's preventing Mancini from assuming his natural role with the team - 1st base. yes, it's an 81 million dollar hit but sometimes you just have to pay for your mistakes.



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Posted 20 June 2019 - 07:37 AM

You're paying him no matter what, right? So why is it such a huge stretch to pay a guy to flat out NOT play for you, when he's virtually a COMPLETELY USELESS bat. You're going in to every game batting 8 instead of 9, with the closest thing you can get to an automatic out in recent major league history. Every. Night.
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#197 Mackus

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Posted 20 June 2019 - 07:44 AM

I think it made sense to give him the first few months of this season to see if he could recover somewhat from his historically abysmal 2018.  If he was able to, then hopefully you could deal him elsewhere and only have to pay about 80-90% of the remaining contract, which would be a relevant amount of savings particularly in future years when we may want to spend more money on the active roster than we do presently.

 

But given Davis' continued historically unprecedented struggles, I think we're at the point where that narrow hope has left and the potential for possible benefit has shrunk so small that it's time to just move on.  The injuries to Smith and Stewart bought him a couple more weeks where his presence was not blocking someone with future potential, but with those guys due back soon and Mountcastle likely not too far behind, I think the period of time where it made sense to continue giving Davis opportunities is very near to a close.


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#198 bmore_ken

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Posted 20 June 2019 - 09:23 AM

This is the only explanation that makes sense, on the surface anyway. I guess there could be some sort of motivation from a business perspective.

That doesn't make sense. You're not saving any money releasing him later in the season because he's still getting paid regardless. If you release him 7 games from now, you've still paid him for those 7 games.



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Posted 20 June 2019 - 09:45 AM

That doesn't make sense. You're not saving any money releasing him later in the season because he's still getting paid regardless. If you release him 7 games from now, you've still paid him for those 7 games.

I totally agree with you. But that doesn't mean ownership agrees with us. Who knows what they're thinking. But from the outside looking in, they can't be keeping him around because they think he's going to bounce back, or be part of a potential trade. I can't see any other reason to keep him, other than they think paying him to play games is better than paying him to go away.  


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Posted 20 June 2019 - 10:37 AM

I totally agree with you. But that doesn't mean ownership agrees with us. Who knows what they're thinking. But from the outside looking in, they can't be keeping him around because they think he's going to bounce back, or be part of a potential trade. I can't see any other reason to keep him, other than they think paying him to play games is better than paying him to go away.  

If that actually is the case(and I guess we'll never truly know) then not has much as changed as we thought. At this point until I hear otherwise,  I'm putting the blame on Hyde. He fills out the line up card every game.






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