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#21 mweb08

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Posted 02 April 2019 - 11:00 AM

As I said earlier, I don't really agree with that appraisal of the risk and I doubt they do either, because if they did agree with what you're saying, Hyde would have likely left him in. And at this point, I give them the benefit of the doubt.

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Posted 02 April 2019 - 11:04 AM

Well he hasn’t left Britton in the pen in a must win situation. So he still earns the benefit of the doubt. I just don’t like the decision here.

Not a fireable offense or anything.
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Posted 02 April 2019 - 12:00 PM

There's no evidence that pitch counts limit pitching injuries. That is my issue with this debate. But it is reasonable to make the decision he did.
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Posted 02 April 2019 - 01:59 PM

There's no evidence that pitch counts limit pitching injuries. That is my issue with this debate. But it is reasonable to make the decision he did.


That’s my thing. There is no crystal ball. Like the Lamar Jackson debate, people assume because he runs he’ll get hurt. Yet pocket passing Flacco is the one who suffered injury after injury for the last 5 years.

I know the retort is that you can limit a workload to limit the odds of injury. Sure. But everyone is built different and often injury’s are flukes. Nolan Ryan threw 98-100mph until he was well into his 40s, and finally blew his arm out. I think the last pitch he ever threw that his arm gave out was 98mph. Some guys blow their arm out in warmups of rookie ball.

I don’t know how invasive it is, but when the Astros (Elias) drafted Brady Aiken, they didn’t sign him because a physical found his UCL to be unusually small. Ripe to be torn basically. He went to IMG academy and tore it right away.

So do they take an MRI of every players body? When they say “pending physical” do they go this deep? But not tell the media because of HIPA laws and such? Tell me Hess has a small UCL, and I’ll say that he did the right thing last night. If his ligaments look no different than any other normal ones, then they basically wasted a chance to save the bullpen when “the opener” is around the corner.

Also limiting pitches is contradictory to what they did with Givens the other night. 52 pitches for him. And I like that they did that too.
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Posted 02 April 2019 - 03:40 PM

Hess was getting hit hard before he got pulled. Chances are he would have allowed a hit, whether in the 7th or 8th had he lasted that long.


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Posted 02 April 2019 - 04:02 PM

Hess was getting hit hard before he got pulled. Chances are he would have allowed a hit, whether in the 7th or 8th had he lasted that long.

 

One ball was hit squarely off him, I don't think that qualifies as getting hit hard.   The last out was a very hard hit liner, that was the only hard hit ball off him all night that I recall.  The 9 previous batters he faced before that were 6 Ks, two popouts, and a soft liner to 1B that ended the 6th.

 

Agreed that he likely gives up a hit in the 7th or 8th, or uses too many pitches to be given the chance to finish the job.  But I'd have given him that opportunity until he got way further into the danger zone than I think he was last night at barely over 80 pitches without any concerns or struggles.  I think they stuck with their plan of using an overabundance of caution when it was a prime opportunity to be more aggressive for the chance at something historic.



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Posted 02 April 2019 - 06:46 PM

Hyde did comment that it makes it harder to pull a guy the deeper he goes. if Hess got past the 8th at like 100 pitches, it becomes impossible to pull him in the 9th, like if it takes him 20 pitches to get 2 outs. Starts approaching 130ish.

But his pace wasn’t going to take him that high. Still coulda let him finish 7 at least and see where he was.
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