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#21 NewMarketSean

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Posted 18 December 2019 - 11:19 AM

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Posted 27 December 2019 - 09:41 AM

The last episode of The Mandalorian was fantastic.

Jason Sudeikis as a stormtrooper was hilarious.
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Posted 27 December 2019 - 08:05 PM

The last episode of The Mandalorian was fantastic.

Jason Sudeikis as a stormtrooper was hilarious.


Put The Rise of Skywalker to shame.

Great finale to a great season. I will say the middle two episodes were subpar due to what I believe to be the direction but the show exceeded any expectations I could’ve had coming into it.
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Posted 28 December 2019 - 08:26 AM

Put The Rise of Skywalker to shame.

Great finale to a great season. I will say the middle two episodes were subpar due to what I believe to be the direction but the show exceeded any expectations I could’ve had coming into it.


What Jon Favreau did with The Mandalorian really shows what a botch-job Disney did when they had no plan or direction for the whole sequel trilogy.
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Posted 28 December 2019 - 02:17 PM

The last episode of The Mandalorian was fantastic.

Jason Sudeikis as a stormtrooper was hilarious.


 

I kind of wish they'd give us a more concrete idea of when it takes place. The way the imperials are still all around but not an organized force makes the timing a little wishy washy. I get the impression it's in between Endor and the newest trilogy. But I suppose it could be at the end of the Clone War and the siege of Mandalor but before the original trilogy. But the fact that the younger Mandalorian's don't even know who the Jedi are or what the force is makes it seem like a LOT more time passed in between the trilogies, but since Luke, Leia and Han are all still alive when it starts it can't be that long.

 

I mean basically the three strongest forces are the Mandalorians, the Jedi and the Sith. I'd say the seperatists/imperials are their own thing, but the sith have really been driving that train the whole time. They seem to be playing the Mando and Jedi against each other for a long time now trying to weaken their enemies which is totally a 1/4 of the Sith playbook.

 

Seems like it's after Death Watch and Darth Maul though, since the Dark Saber is floating around and the Mandalorians are scattered. I guess I should be happy enough they are going into Yoda's race, seems like they are implying that maybe the entire race is force sensitive? I dunno. I like that it's ambiguous, but I at least want to know which time period ambiguous before I get my hopes up. Just shows you what good could come out of getting away from that one set timeline and exploring so much more out there. Who knows, there could be another galaxy out there with a thriving Jedi Temple. There could be a whole nother Jedi/Sith war coming.

 

It'll be really interesting to see where things go for the show now


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Posted 28 December 2019 - 03:45 PM

It’s definitely after the original trilogy. Cara is a rebel veteran originally hailing from Alderaan.

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Posted 28 December 2019 - 06:13 PM

It’s about 5 years after Jedi and 25 years before Force Awakens.

https://www.vulture....n-timeline.html

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Posted 28 December 2019 - 09:38 PM

The Mandalorian is a phenomenally good show, and I absolutely loved how they pulled everything together from the entire season in that finale.  I tend to like Favreau's work, and it feels like he made this show for me.  Can't wait for season 2.



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Posted 29 December 2019 - 12:44 AM

The last episode of The Mandalorian was fantastic.

Jason Sudeikis as a stormtrooper was hilarious.

 

One was Sudeikis, and the other was Adam Pally.

 

Alan Sepinwall compared that opening scene to a Star Wars parody sketch, between the banter, and the bad shooting, and the radio reports ("Yeah, Moff Gideon just killed an officer for interrupting him, so I'm going to wait."). Watching it, I was thinking that it was basically a Robot Chicken bit, even down to the cameo voices.

 

And of course, Carl Weathers is just a true national treasure.


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Posted 29 December 2019 - 12:56 AM


 

I kind of wish they'd give us a more concrete idea of when it takes place. The way the imperials are still all around but not an organized force makes the timing a little wishy washy. I get the impression it's in between Endor and the newest trilogy. But I suppose it could be at the end of the Clone War and the siege of Mandalor but before the original trilogy. But the fact that the younger Mandalorian's don't even know who the Jedi are or what the force is makes it seem like a LOT more time passed in between the trilogies, but since Luke, Leia and Han are all still alive when it starts it can't be that long.

 

I mean basically the three strongest forces are the Mandalorians, the Jedi and the Sith. I'd say the seperatists/imperials are their own thing, but the sith have really been driving that train the whole time. They seem to be playing the Mando and Jedi against each other for a long time now trying to weaken their enemies which is totally a 1/4 of the Sith playbook.

 

Seems like it's after Death Watch and Darth Maul though, since the Dark Saber is floating around and the Mandalorians are scattered. I guess I should be happy enough they are going into Yoda's race, seems like they are implying that maybe the entire race is force sensitive? I dunno. I like that it's ambiguous, but I at least want to know which time period ambiguous before I get my hopes up. Just shows you what good could come out of getting away from that one set timeline and exploring so much more out there. Who knows, there could be another galaxy out there with a thriving Jedi Temple. There could be a whole nother Jedi/Sith war coming.

 

It'll be really interesting to see where things go for the show now

 

I read somewhere recently a good point: that the Jedi were so few in number by the late Republic that to most of those living in the galaxy they were already essentially legends. Almost nobody would have ever seen one, and not many more would have known what the Force really meant on its own.

 

So when the Empire takes over and begins controlling information and communication (as they would), it would be easy to just stop teaching the existence of those, making any spread entirely local word-of-mouth lore. The Rebellion wasn't driven by the Force or the Jedi, they were just a resistance to the Empire. Even within the events of the OT, there is almost no overlap between the Jedi/Force and the actual fighting by the Rebels, so while stories of Luke's abilities may have gotten around, they would again have been rumor to most people.

 

It does seem strange at first glance, based on how central the Jedi are to the main group of movies. But the more you consider the state of the galaxy and how thing appear to work, the more it makes sense that to most the Jedi are legends from the past.


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Posted 30 December 2019 - 01:46 PM

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Posted 30 December 2019 - 03:09 PM

I read somewhere recently a good point: that the Jedi were so few in number by the late Republic that to most of those living in the galaxy they were already essentially legends. Almost nobody would have ever seen one, and not many more would have known what the Force really meant on its own.

 

So when the Empire takes over and begins controlling information and communication (as they would), it would be easy to just stop teaching the existence of those, making any spread entirely local word-of-mouth lore. The Rebellion wasn't driven by the Force or the Jedi, they were just a resistance to the Empire. Even within the events of the OT, there is almost no overlap between the Jedi/Force and the actual fighting by the Rebels, so while stories of Luke's abilities may have gotten around, they would again have been rumor to most people.

 

It does seem strange at first glance, based on how central the Jedi are to the main group of movies. But the more you consider the state of the galaxy and how thing appear to work, the more it makes sense that to most the Jedi are legends from the past.


Yeah I guess that does make some sort of sense. Just seems to me that these warriors who travel all over for work should have heard about Jedi by now. Especially since they were so forward facing during the Clone War, which is when our Mando hero lost his parents. He was a kid then, but that means he was somewhere between 5-13 when the JEDI ended the droid army and Order-66 was given. I just can't understand how he was clueless about them or the force in that specific timeline, ESPECIALLY since the most sacred artifact they own, one that decides leadership of the entire race, was a weapon from one of their own that was a Jedi. it's like, sure communication could be bad, but theres no way the way the Mandalorians are that they aren't handing down these stories.

 

When I heard the Mandalorian was going to be a thing, i thought it was going to be the story of Jango Fett, which if you haven't read up on it is kind of awesome. It explains why he had no issues taking his helmet off in the Clone Wars movie, and why Boba Fett wasn't an actual Mandalorian (his "dad" was, but was exiled long before he came around, so when he started raising him he was an ex-mandalorian so didn't raise him that way)

 

I like where they are now with things, it's an awesome show, the timeline is just weird. Like they could have set it in the current trilogy timeline and it wouldn't have changed much, and would have made some more sense, being more open ended. The risk they run like the failures of the prequel and current trilogies is that when you already know how things end up, it only leaves you so much room to work with. Having something Star Wars with an open ending that we know nothing about would be something none of us have seen in our lifetimes.

 

I know they like to milk that whole this is the last of the Jedi and Sith thing, but with all the people we have seen with various degrees of force ability, and the fact light sabers are just weapons that anyone could technically learn how to use, there could EASILY be a whole different faction of Sith/Jedi out there SOMEWHERE far away...or far, far, away if you will.


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Posted 30 December 2019 - 03:18 PM

I like where they are now with things, it's an awesome show, the timeline is just weird. Like they could have set it in the current trilogy timeline and it wouldn't have changed much, and would have made some more sense, being more open ended. The risk they run like the failures of the prequel and current trilogies is that when you already know how things end up, it only leaves you so much room to work with. Having something Star Wars with an open ending that we know nothing about would be something none of us have seen in our lifetimes.

 

I haven't seen RoS yet, so maybe Old Mando or No-Longer-Baby Yoda play some part in the story. But if not, I don't see how this is an issue.

 

This isn't Better Call Saul, a spinoff prequal where we know exactly where the main characters end up. This is a story outside of the main plot of the movies, and unless they do some plot where they, like, run into Luke's new Jedi temple/training center, it's as open-ended as anything in that universe could be.


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Posted 30 December 2019 - 05:28 PM


Yeah I guess that does make some sort of sense. Just seems to me that these warriors who travel all over for work should have heard about Jedi by now. Especially since they were so forward facing during the Clone War, which is when our Mando hero lost his parents. He was a kid then, but that means he was somewhere between 5-13 when the JEDI ended the droid army and Order-66 was given. I just can't understand how he was clueless about them or the force in that specific timeline, ESPECIALLY since the most sacred artifact they own, one that decides leadership of the entire race, was a weapon from one of their own that was a Jedi. it's like, sure communication could be bad, but theres no way the way the Mandalorians are that they aren't handing down these stories.

 

When I heard the Mandalorian was going to be a thing, i thought it was going to be the story of Jango Fett, which if you haven't read up on it is kind of awesome. It explains why he had no issues taking his helmet off in the Clone Wars movie, and why Boba Fett wasn't an actual Mandalorian (his "dad" was, but was exiled long before he came around, so when he started raising him he was an ex-mandalorian so didn't raise him that way)

 

I like where they are now with things, it's an awesome show, the timeline is just weird. Like they could have set it in the current trilogy timeline and it wouldn't have changed much, and would have made some more sense, being more open ended. The risk they run like the failures of the prequel and current trilogies is that when you already know how things end up, it only leaves you so much room to work with. Having something Star Wars with an open ending that we know nothing about would be something none of us have seen in our lifetimes.

 

I know they like to milk that whole this is the last of the Jedi and Sith thing, but with all the people we have seen with various degrees of force ability, and the fact light sabers are just weapons that anyone could technically learn how to use, there could EASILY be a whole different faction of Sith/Jedi out there SOMEWHERE far away...or far, far, away if you will.

 

This is not true per Star Wars canon.  Remember, a lightsaber blade weighs nothing and will meet literal resistance when cutting most things.  The Force is supposed to help you compensate for this and make sure you cut your leg off accidentally, and it's why Jedi train so extensively.  It's also why you have only seen non-Force users clumsily use lightsabers as tools in the films (like Han opening up the Tauntaun).



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Posted 31 December 2019 - 03:48 PM

This is not true per Star Wars canon.  Remember, a lightsaber blade weighs nothing and will meet literal resistance when cutting most things.  The Force is supposed to help you compensate for this and make sure you cut your leg off accidentally, and it's why Jedi train so extensively.  It's also why you have only seen non-Force users clumsily use lightsabers as tools in the films (like Han opening up the Tauntaun).


Yet the Dark Saber is a lightsaber, and is used EXCLUSIVELY by non-force wielders for over 1000 years now. It's that normal people don't put in the training with them or have access to them. It's supposed to be part of the Jedi rights that you get the crystal you need to use a lightsaber in your training, normal people can't get those and make their own. But nothing stopped Greivous from using 4 of them at a time. Or Finn from using it against Ren in the first movie. Much like the Jedi dying off and becoming extinct, finding intact light sabers has to be stuff of legend too. Of course even the most trained warrior will still be inferior to a Jedi because they won't have the extra powers that make them most effective. And all that stuff is canon, so let the debate rage on :)


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Posted 03 January 2020 - 08:29 PM

http://www.darkhoriz...series-planned/

 

More Rebels!

 

Now that's some Star Wars news I can be excited about!


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Posted 03 January 2020 - 11:16 PM

It’s about 5 years after Jedi and 25 years before Force Awakens.
https://www.vulture....n-timeline.html


and yet they hadn’t really heard of the Jedi?

Thought that was odd.
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Posted 04 January 2020 - 07:05 AM

and yet they hadn’t really heard of the Jedi?

Thought that was odd.


It’s definitely a stretch at least.

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Posted 04 January 2020 - 08:28 AM

What Jon Favreau did with The Mandalorian really shows what a botch-job Disney did when they had no plan or direction for the whole sequel trilogy.

I think a big part of that is because they were ok allowing three different writers to come up with their own film. They needed a show runner for that trilogy. It was so disjointed. 


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Posted 04 January 2020 - 08:29 AM

And Yoda was also a what, a Senator in the prequel trilogy? People don’t know his species at all?


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