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#41 Pedro Cerrano

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Posted 07 November 2016 - 09:56 AM

So I have watched two episodes and I have two questions.  Please PM me so I don't get spoiled in this thread.

 

Why are they performing surgery on Thandie Newton's character?  Do each of these hosts need to be repaired after each trip?  So when the one guy gets his head blown off they have to bring him to the "real world" to patch him up before sending him back to the fantasy world?

 

Do multiple "real" people enter the park at once or is it always just one group of "vacationers' with nothing but hosts?

 

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Posted 14 November 2016 - 08:03 AM

So Bernard's a robot right?



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Posted 14 November 2016 - 11:11 AM

Good call.  Figured somebody would be at some point, and Bernard was as good of a candidate as any of the "humans", but wasn't convinced it'd be him.  I made an audible gasp when he said "what door?" in Ford's robot family's house.

 

The "train robbery" scene was fantastic. 

 

Really enjoying this show. 



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Posted 14 November 2016 - 11:19 AM

Hopkins is nailing it as a bad guy (big shocker I know) his speech to Theresa was pretty chilling.  It was also interesting seeing Bernard starting to freak out upon realizing he was a robot then turning into an emotionless killer at the simple command from Ford.  On the flip side I certainly felt for Maeve when she was what was going to happen to Clementine.



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Posted 14 November 2016 - 02:18 PM

Does Ford now bring Theresa back as a robot to do his bidding?


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Posted 14 November 2016 - 08:44 PM

Does Ford now bring Theresa back as a robot to do his bidding?


That has to be the host that was being built in that room. Good call.

That was such a good episode.

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Posted 14 November 2016 - 08:48 PM

Does Ford now bring Theresa back as a robot to do his bidding?



Yeah, think so.

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Posted 14 November 2016 - 09:41 PM

The Ringer: ‘Westworld’ (Finally) Drops Its Big Reveal
https://theringer.co...edec#.f7dgeim7p



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Posted 15 November 2016 - 07:01 AM

Yeah, think so.

 

Then what's the "blood sacrifice" if she's back in her job like normal? Does he program her to self-sabotage and take the blame? 

Also possible that if the hosts really gain consciousness, then Bernard could turn against Ford at the end for what he made him do.


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Posted 15 November 2016 - 11:09 AM

Then what's the "blood sacrifice" if she's back in her job like normal? Does he program her to self-sabotage and take the blame? 

Also possible that if the hosts really gain consciousness, then Bernard could turn against Ford at the end for what he made him do.

 

Wasn't the blood sacrifice the random security guard that got pummeled (killed?) by Clementine during the demonstration?



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Posted 15 November 2016 - 03:49 PM

Wasn't the blood sacrifice the random security guard that got pummeled (killed?) by Clementine during the demonstration?


That was a host.

The blood sacrifice was an allusion to a firing. Ford made it literal

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Posted 21 November 2016 - 07:10 PM

The Ringer: ‘Westworld’ Is Finally Giving Us Answers



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Posted 22 November 2016 - 07:40 AM

Great episode, some answers confirmed some teased.   Here's a really good recap of the episode and the show to date.

 

http://www.vanityfai...ay-who-is-wyatt


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Posted 22 November 2016 - 05:23 PM

Great episode, some answers confirmed some teased.   Here's a really good recap of the episode and the show to date.
 
http://www.vanityfai...ay-who-is-wyatt


Joanna Robinson is great.

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Posted 22 November 2016 - 06:48 PM

Great episode, some answers confirmed some teased.   Here's a really good recap of the episode and the show to date.

 

http://www.vanityfai...ay-who-is-wyatt

 

One theory I have trouble buying is Bernard being a simulacrum of Arnold. Well, I guess it depends what you mean by simulacrum. If it's really a direct clone, wouldn't folks who also knew Arnold be like, umm, Arnold's still alive...?


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Posted 22 November 2016 - 07:54 PM

Great episode, some answers confirmed some teased.   Here's a really good recap of the episode and the show to date.
 
http://www.vanityfai...ay-who-is-wyatt

 
One theory I have trouble buying is Bernard being a simulacrum of Arnold. Well, I guess it depends what you mean by simulacrum. If it's really a direct clone, wouldn't folks who also knew Arnold be like, umm, Arnold's still alive...?

Staff turnover is probably fairly frequent. I doubt anyone is still there from 34 years ago to recognize. I don't think him being Arnold is a slam dunk but still the most likely scenario.

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Posted 22 November 2016 - 07:58 PM

I agree with MP, I think that someone like Theresa or from the board would have at least seen one photo of Arnold along the way with such a giant project.  



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Posted 23 November 2016 - 10:56 AM

I agree with MP, I think that someone like Theresa or from the board would have at least seen one photo of Arnold along the way with such a giant project.  

We saw Bernard wiping himself out of a photo, so isn't it possible that he's done something like that before?

 

A couple other quick thoughts, I'm not convinced Elsie is dead.   Certainly possible but I think I need to see more than a brief 2 second struggle before I right her off.

 

The actress who plays Maeve is doing a terrific job.  She goes from sympathetic to terrifying so seamlessly.  I didn't care for her character much early on, but she's  one of my favorites now.



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Posted 23 November 2016 - 11:11 AM

If Bernard is a recreation of Arnold, I don't think he would be an identical-looking doppelganger.  Arnold's mind recreated in a different body, kind of thing. 

 

I don't think that's gonna be the case, though.  I think Bernard likely was created by Ford and Arnold together.



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Posted 24 November 2016 - 04:58 PM

If Bernard is a recreation of Arnold, I don't think he would be an identical-looking doppelganger.  Arnold's mind recreated in a different body, kind of thing. 

 

I don't think that's gonna be the case, though.  I think Bernard likely was created by Ford and Arnold together.

 

I'm skeptical even of a cloned mind in a different looking body. I mean, why would you want to re-create the chief threat to your dominance? At the same time, whether it's Arnold's mind or not, I see Bernard turning on Ford, crossing a threshold of free will that surprises Ford and fucks up his plans in the last episode.


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