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#1 Cisc-O's

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Posted 02 August 2016 - 04:38 PM

You know the places no contracts but huge dudes go in and out and ladies are in the parking lot flipping tractor tires.   Looks like something Mickey would be training Rocky out of.  I go in and I tell the guy upfront look I need to get in shape again.  Its been awhile since I seriously worked out and I need to do it.  The guy says well what are your eating habits because working out is about 40% of what it takes and he says what are you trying to do as in build strength or endurance.  Or just trying to look fit.  I said I am have always been a small guy in High school I played Football, Soccer, and Track.  I worked out all year long with taking summer breaks but I could never gain weight.  I told him even after boot camp I was only 4% body fat but I had no bulk.  After coming back home I made a conscious decision to eat whatever and pick up as much weight as I could.  After 8 years I put on 30 pounds but now its just fat and I am in the starting phase of needing a training bra.  Out comes a guy and said here is my card if you are serious lets get started.  The gym was 40 dollars for three months (lol)  and the guy cost 30 dollars for an hour session.  Every where else they try to charge you at least double and I am to ashamed to go with friends right now.  This is my first week on the diet he laid out for me and shakes supplements.  We have had three sessions and I have thrown up every time after and sore as hell.  I am starting to love it though.  I can already tell I have more energy and I am ready to start my day.  I found out my legs are strong as hell as I was pushing 375 pounds on my first time doing legs.  My push needs lots of work as I saw the huge dudes snickering doing my press and curls lol.  My pull weight is great though.  My body aches and I mean aches.  The throwing up sucks but there is a goal here that I need to get back in shape and its due to a radical change I am making in my life.  

 

Now I know this will come with a lot of criticism but I have essentially decided that I need to help out the community again and serve our state.  I can't stand what is going on right now so I have decided to do my part from the inside and join the Police department.  The Academy starts in October.  I am going from a Finical Adviser to a cop and shaving off a huge chunk of salary a year.  We are fine money wise though and will be but this is something I have to and want to do.  They have some great, good, and bad people and I hope to be another plug in for the good guys.  I have made my firm aware and they are sad that I am leaving but, one of my partners we are in the process of going through my clients and changing them over.  They are going to let me park my licenses with them and hold some of my accounts.  Important part is my family is behind me.   I love helping people and I love my community.  The Psyche exam, board interviews the polygraph was something else.  I may elaborate more on that if anyone is interested.  


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Posted 02 August 2016 - 05:05 PM

Work on your push exercises with the return key :)

Going so hard you puke seems a bit excessive, but whatever you need to do to keep your motivation up is fine. I've found that 95% of all workout regimens or diets or anything really is just staying with it. The specifics matter for optimization, but just keep going and you're most of the way there.

And much respect on the last part. Hope that all works out well for you. Where is the force you'll hopefully be joining?

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Posted 02 August 2016 - 08:04 PM

Work on your push exercises with the return key :)

Going so hard you puke seems a bit excessive, but whatever you need to do to keep your motivation up is fine. I've found that 95% of all workout regimens or diets or anything really is just staying with it. The specifics matter for optimization, but just keep going and you're most of the way there.

And much respect on the last part. Hope that all works out well for you. Where is the force you'll hopefully be joining?

 

They have a massive background check that is on going until you get your finial acceptance letter.  Lets leave it till I hit the academy.  I think I was just so out of shape is why I was puking.  Thursday is the high intensity workout that I am nervous about. 


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Posted 03 August 2016 - 08:48 AM

This prosecutor is disappointed he can only hit like one time.  Good for you.



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Posted 03 August 2016 - 09:40 AM

Big changes there. Congrats man for having the courage and determination to do that. Hope it goes well.

 

I'd like to hear more about why you feel so compelled to do this if you ever want to share. I could be wrong, but doesn't your family (or even you) have a military background?


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Posted 04 August 2016 - 02:17 PM

Big changes there. Congrats man for having the courage and determination to do that. Hope it goes well.

 

I'd like to hear more about why you feel so compelled to do this if you ever want to share. I could be wrong, but doesn't your family (or even you) have a military background?

I have a military background.  I feel driven about doing what I can do for our community whatever little or big that is.  If that is coming to work and making fellow officers laugh and lighten up before they go on duty.  If that is helping people in need of a tow truck/gas or in a true emergency.  I wanted to see the training the officers go through before deployed.  I am the type of person that has to live it before I critique it fully and this is an area I know a lot about and think I can help with.  I hear what people say and need to see first hand what is going on.  Drive-a-longs never reveal the full story.  I have tried that and if I took that as being a full time cop I would believe all cops are 100% stand up people all the time. Some people believe a large majority of cops are good but cover up for the bad ones.  Is that true?  Can I help change the perception on both sides?  On my off days can I wear the badge and help people in my area to clean the outside of their property?  Get to know the people, outreach by taking some kids to ball games and getting to know them.  I have ideas, I don't know the in's and outs of what is Legal to do yet.  The police department is something we need and something all people should depend on.  Nobody should be scared to call for help.  Can I help change that in some small area in our community?  Maybe.  I am going in to help though and I will do whatever I can. 


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Posted 22 August 2016 - 03:57 PM

Thought I would update this.  Weights have been three times a week and cardio running 4 times a week.  I have stayed as true to the diet as I can.  I am down to 15% body fat which I started out at 20.5% body fat.  My high intense workouts surprise surprise I was flipping over the tractor tires in the parking lot once going down about 12 flips then jumping up on them 10 times and doing 10 push ups.  Then flipping the tires back.  There was 5 sets of these.  In the heat on my lunch break doesn't sound bad but it was tough for me haha.  We normally do three things at once as well on my stations.  We normally do one set heavy weights on one area then one set of sit ups and then one set up free weights.  We do it in sets of 5 usually then move to the next station.  Hope that makes sense.  True to his word I have not dropped any weight.   I am starting to see shoulders and arms form.  The beginning stages of the soreness are fading, instead of 3-4 days it last 1-2.  Cardio is the hard part now especially in the heat.  I am benching 5 pounds below my body weight on 10 count.  (Benching my body weight was a personal goal of mine.  Trainer said he has not heard of that as a bench mark and said I should shoot for higher.  I told him coach potato dreams man).  I was put on the 0 to 5k running app.  It starts you off with 30 minutes of walking then 10 minutes of jogging.  It dwindles the walking down as you progress.  It seems to be working.  

 

As for the Academy my name is on the roster (from an inside source).  I have passed everything they required of me now I am just waiting for the finial letter.  This is what that has entailed.  Physical training obstacle course which consisted of running 1 mile 6 ft fence climb, 8 ft terrain jump, 155 pound body drag for 50 ft and dry fire a 9mm glock in both hands in under 8 min 30 secs.  Up next was what seemed to be some form of an IQ test and simple comprehension.  A  full back ground check with you telling them neighbors numbers to past jobs (Every past job) and 15 people you know for them to talk to and your complete history.  Girlfriends you dated numbers.  Drug history medicals etc....   A detective then gets to work and digs.  You go back and talk to the detective and he fills in any holes or things you left off.  I left off I was pulled over for faulty equipment (Windshield was cracked) when I was 17 and I got a ticket for it.  He takes that information and you go to Polygraphing.  Where they ask you a series of questions about 20 four different times.  They dive into your application as well and setup the testing asking all sorts of questions about your childhood and what might trigger a response.  In between questions she leaves the room as you are being filmed and talks to the person watching the recording.  After that is complete you go in for a board interview.  A Captain, Sargent, Lieutenant, and a shrink ask you a series of questions where they grade you a 1-5 on each question.  If you pass that you take a 987 (Not exaggerating real number) question scan tron test about your psychological make up.  This test asks all kinds of questions from religion to level of alcohol consumption to friendships.  You come back and talk to a shrink about this test and answer any questions he may have for you.   Lastly you get a physical.  EKG, blood test, drug test, and a lung X-ray.  You report back to them after to see how your TB test looks and they go over everything with you.  You then wait to see if you made it through the pack and are selected.  


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Posted 22 August 2016 - 09:48 PM

Good for you Cisco-O's. No way I'd want to be a cop these days. but thanks for stepping up. 


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Posted 27 March 2017 - 03:33 PM

I'll update this in a bit. I am on week 27 of the 32 week training and it has been awesome/awful/a huge learning experience and what you have to respond to on a daily basis. I find it funny we learn a lot from dissecting in the beginning of what was done right/wrong on YouTube videos that everyone else sees. We also get a lot of the full body cams on some so you get both interactions and kind of see what the other view is seeing.
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Posted 09 May 2017 - 09:07 AM

Got a few days off before we graduate and go on the road. Lets talk about the academy and what we learned. First thing they take you to a training building that is an off beaten building that has no tags to let you know it is a police or training building. They line you up in front of your cars and tell you to wait. This was kind of militaryesqu. They yell we need 4 lines 5 people each as we have never met eachother in the first few seconds we struggle to get it exactly right and they are telling(yelling) us how bad we look and we have failed at lining up. We then go into the building sign a few waivers and in a big sack dump all of our PT(Physical Training) clothes out on the floor. They have our intials in them and mass chaos started because they gave us 5 minutes to change out of our suits into our PT clothes. As you can imagine it was a bit of a mess until we started working together and announcing the intials instead of looking for our own. Every morning at 8 am they had us lining outside putting us on the spot asking who the chain of command is or the department motto and things like this. After if things did not go well or we messed something up they would have us run and beat us down a few pegs, at the end of these sessions since we were the 60 something academy (still concealing where I am for a bit) we had to do those exact push ups. At the end we would ask who owed any they could not complete and we would have to keep making them up, First few weeks we had sessions where we did 180-220 push ups because some people could not do a proper push up. We taught them fast :). We had mostly law classes the two months. From codes to elements of what constitutes what crime and how we can deal with it the prosecutors would come in and teach these classes. We also went through a lot of video on how many seconds things take to go wrong and how you have to react and examine in your head what is exactly happening. They would always preface the video by saying we are not trying to arm chair QB these videos and we have no idea what they are feeling in the moment it is happening but we have to learn from what we are watching and tell from our perspective. First three months they make plenty of time for PT sessions at the end of day. They looked like a 5 mile run sporadically throughout the run we would do push ups/sit ups/planks/burpees/on your back and six inches and leg kicks. They were pretty intense but eventually your body adapts. You have PT exams based on your numbers it tells you your percentile in your age limit.

Right around half way through is when things start to get real. We went through 80 hours of defensive tactics. This is when you learn proper handcuffing techniques holds, grasps, knife fighting, feet movement, body balancing, strikes and a complete pressure point. You also learn to go up and down the wheel of enforcement. This is what you can and cannot do while applying force. You need to learn that being slapped is not deadly force. Being non compliant is not means for asp use and so on. Basically at the end of the day they want you to have one upon your perceived threat. For instance if they approach you non compliant to get back or follow commands you can go hands on but no strikes of any kind but if they open hand slap you can go close fists. If they kick and punch you can use restraints and pepper spray. If they have any kind of weapon and swing you can use deadly force. Your arms look like a complete bruise. Your wrists are very soar and your whole body is in pain from being thrown handcuffed etc. This is also where you meet a spark knife. It is an electric knife that simulates being cut by a knife without cutting you. They run it on our arm torso and legs. It is a severe pain and I can tell you shit hurts and it is true to being cut not stabbed of course.

Next up we went to the range. Here we learn gun safety. How to draw your gun and to recover from misfires. Being accountable for every bullet that leaves your gun. We fired about 2000 rounds with our guns and have to qualify at 85% accuracy. 75% in night and proper movements with the hand gun and shotguns. We have to qualify for both. We also can eventually qualify for a riffle which is the M-4 and we shot them a bit to get use to them. We learn important things like body adjustments and how our brain goes through a fight or flight mode when we are in danger. Here is a concept I never learned in the military. If you were to get in a situation where your brain thinks you can die it diverts your blood flow away from your arms and your non essential areas and keeps all to the brain and vital organs. What does this mean? Well if you shoot 98% at the range with no thought you go to about 15-20% in those critical situations. You lose a lot of blood flow so its not about being scared its about body mechanics. At the end we qualify with the Glock 22 .45 caliber and the 12 gauge shot gun. They run us through many stress shots and have a big one at the end. Basically you go through the courses running and exercising between shoots. Fire guns off behind your head. You must hit the targets with accuracy remember your fundamentals. Course is about 2 miles of running places and yes they take you through bad guy good guy simulations and moving targets and have you looking for cover concealments. They also have Fire there making sure you don't freak out and your blood pressure stays fine.

Next is officer survival, this is about job safety and how you keep everyone safe (yourself, beat mates, and the public). They stress a lot of the situations can be won with the words you use, so you have to be clear and make sense in tense situations. You basically go through scenario to scenario with a partner with two instructors grading your every move and how you react. There is mandated passing in these scenarios as well. You do traffic stops, disorderly, domestics, fight scenarios, trespassing, mental health, drunk in public, drunk driving, active shooter, Hostages, building searches and a few other scenarios. Active shooter are done with simulation rounds which is a rubber bullet that is a bit more powerful then paintball. If it hits you not on your vest but your hands or arms it leaves breaks in the skins welts and just get better reminders. You learn immediately responding to a threat at an active shooter which we mostly do school scenarios is the first thing we take out is the threat. If you are the first to arrive on scene or in a group no matter what they have if they are moving around killing people our job is to take out the threat if that means walking passed wounded or the hurt its about taking out the threat. If they barricade themselves in with hostages it becomes just that a different scenario. After the threat has been taken out it goes Civilians, officers, offenders are prioritized in that fashion with the on hand emergency crews. This was a very physical, mentally draining part of the academy. If we messed up on things we had learned we got smoked (angry PT) for it. These was a huge block of 4 weeks. This is topped off by a stress house where you do intense PT then they spray clear out (I'll tell you about the chemicals in a few) while doing PT, then you go through scenario to scenario running the entire time through 15 with all different types of outcomes. Just do not go to black and not do anything.

EVOT which is emergency vehicle operator training. Driving fast! You get to take the car up to 130 MPH, chase cars, drive slow through obstacles, drive fast through obstacles. You also get to PIT cars which is precision immobilization technique. over 40mph is considered deadly force and you must be authorized by your SGT. to attempt the maneuver no matter what. Every bit of training you do no matter where in the academy you get tested and do scenarios on it. You learn how to do car searches during EVOT as well.

Chemical munitions day is the worst day! This day is where you get to learn up close and personal about all the chemicals we use. We go through CN, CS, and spray and in closed and outside. We use clear out in riot situations or barricade hostage situations as well. It feels like your stomach is trying to come out your throat. You lose all control of your mucus and you kind of drool and snot everywhere. Effects on both depend how long you stay in the gas but once out of it you can recover with in 3-4 minutes tops. Pepper spray is the absolute worse of everything though. They have you sprayed in the face then you wait like a minute. Then you hit a bag for another minute then handcuff someone with proper procedure and then end scenario and just curl up in pain. People say it feels like your face is on fire but that is to nice. Your face feels like it is being boiled with water and it inflames your mucus membranes in your mouth and nose. It makes it difficult to breath along with intense pain. This last for about 45 minutes to an hour. It doesn't just go away though. You take a shower it reactivates itself and be ready for another 30 minutes. Needless to say this day was awful!

We have a lot of other blocks about our other units with in the division, investigative all types and how to prepare scenes work with victims, we learn about mental health, children. Being reports for CPS and APS. Working with aging adults. Everything you can think of we basically learned about it took a test for it and went through scenarios. I will say with the training we went through you have a great basis to start on the road. Going on break outs though which is a ride along with each shift you learn the academy teaches you safety, dealing with people but during our next phase which is FTO (field training officer) is where you learn how to apply it. This phase is riding with him for the next three months basically and it goes from trainer to silent partner. You then go in front of a release board to talk about all the daily reports your FTO wrote about you and your knowledge on handling all the different types of scenes.

Any questions just ask? I know was a hot topic and continues to be a hot topic and I think training was portion of what do you learn when going through an academy. Just know not all academy's are the same. There is a difference between a Sherriff Patrolman to a Police Officer and 32 weeks is on the high end as some just go through a 18-22 week program. I think this shows a good base but if you have any questions fire them away. I am more than happy to answer them.


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Posted 16 June 2017 - 09:58 AM

I had my first run in with a sovereign citizen lol.   Anyone know about these guys?  They believe America is a free country and if you don't go by your corporate name you do not have to follow certain laws......The USA is a corporate entity that took over free America.  So you could imagine how this conversation went when they believe they don't need to pay taxes or anything because the laws do not apply to them.  Needless to say a small traffic ticket lasted about 45 minutes of some of the stupidest conversation I have ever had and a trip to the magistrate because they would not sign the stupid ticket! 


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Posted 16 June 2017 - 04:04 PM

I had my first run in with a sovereign citizen lol.   Anyone know about these guys?  They believe America is a free country and if you don't go by your corporate name you do not have to follow certain laws......The USA is a corporate entity that took over free America.  So you could imagine how this conversation went when they believe they don't need to pay taxes or anything because the laws do not apply to them.  Needless to say a small traffic ticket lasted about 45 minutes of some of the stupidest conversation I have ever had and a trip to the magistrate because they would not sign the stupid ticket! 

 

Wait, those people are real?  I knew about the idiots in Oregon and Nevada, but I thought that was a couple of nutters.



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Posted 26 March 2020 - 07:06 PM

I went back to training non stop for my new job! I have a four legged partner! I am super stoked to join the K9 division. My dog and I have passed all requirements and have hit the road. I now see how busy K-9 units are. We get a lot of grief by not always being able to make everyone’s call for a K9. It took a lot of training my family how to treat the dog more then anything.
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Posted 26 March 2020 - 08:27 PM

So are you Turner or Hooch?
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Posted 26 March 2020 - 09:38 PM

I try to base everything off of WWAFD. What would Axel Foley do.
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