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#1 Oriole85

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 12:45 PM

ESPN: Wrestling dropped from 2020 Games

http://espn.go.com/o...g-2020-olympics

I don't like this at all. What's next track-and-field?
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Posted 12 February 2013 - 12:55 PM

Wow.

Oh well, It's not like wrestling has a long history in the Olympics or anything.

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 01:24 PM

Why? Just dumb.

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 01:28 PM

Why? Just dumb.

Ratings and things like that.

Mike and Mike had a good conversation about this today..Golic is a big "real" wrestling fan and hated to hear this news. He feels its as pure a "sport" as you can have and in a lot of ways, he is right.

Greenberg's thought is that sports like golf, tennis, baseball and things like that shouldn't be Olympic sports...his thought process is that any sport where a gold medal is the pinnacle of your sport, should be an event.

But if it is just another award and not as important as winning a major or something like that, that it shouldn't be an Olympic event.

Its an interesting perspective IMO. For me, I think the Olympics are a chance to show the whole world how great of an athlete you are, so i don't mind those sports being in...but I do see that side of it and do think its a very valid opinion.
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Posted 12 February 2013 - 05:50 PM

The worst part is that the other four sports up for elimination were canoeing, taekwondo, (field) hockey, and modern pentathlon, with the last one as the other finalist.

That means the IOC believes that modern pentathlon is a better sport to have in the Olympics than wrestling.

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 05:59 PM

Terrible decision. You have to wonder what this will do to the sport as a whole.

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 06:03 PM

Why rhythmic gymnastics (which is essentially ribbon twirling and baton throwing) and equestrian are Olympic sports and wrestling is not is beyond me.

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 06:05 PM

Terrible decision. You have to wonder what this will do to the sport as a whole.

Somewhere, somehow, Vince McMahon is behind this :D

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 10:21 PM

Really surprising.

That said, wrestling gets terrible ratings (when it's even shown) and almost no attention online. Wrestling takes a large venue, requires a boatload of athletes and nobody cares about it. Really the only reason to keep it is tradition.

Most of the criticism about the decision has focused on the "why not cut modern pentathlon" argument. But that sport had 72 participants in London, took one day (for each sex) and was played in venues that already exist for other sports. Wrestling has 300+ athletes and pretty much takes the entire two weeks to run.

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 10:36 PM

Really surprising.

That said, wrestling gets terrible ratings (when it's even shown) and almost no attention online. Wrestling takes a large venue, requires a boatload of athletes and nobody cares about it. Really the only reason to keep it is tradition.

Most of the criticism about the decision has focused on the "why not cut modern pentathlon" argument. But that sport had 72 participants in London, took one day (for each sex) and was played in venues that already exist for other sports. Wrestling has 300+ athletes and pretty much takes the entire two weeks to run.

Shouldn't number of participants be taken into account? I mean, the reason given for baseball's exclusion was lack of participation around the world.

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 11:46 AM

Really surprising.

That said, wrestling gets terrible ratings (when it's even shown) and almost no attention online. Wrestling takes a large venue, requires a boatload of athletes and nobody cares about it. Really the only reason to keep it is tradition.

Most of the criticism about the decision has focused on the "why not cut modern pentathlon" argument. But that sport had 72 participants in London, took one day (for each sex) and was played in venues that already exist for other sports. Wrestling has 300+ athletes and pretty much takes the entire two weeks to run.

Good points, but there's nothing that says wrestling needs to be held in large venues. It's not like football where you need an 100 yard field, goal posts, etc. It can take place in a gym and you just need a mat. I still thinks it's a bad decision for sentimentality reasons but if people don't care, I can't entirely fault the IOC's for it's exclusion. It just seems to be some recent additions aren't really Olympic sports.
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Posted 13 February 2013 - 01:51 PM

ESPN: IOC to meet with wrestling leader

http://espn.go.com/o...restling-leader
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Posted 13 February 2013 - 02:00 PM

ESPN: IOC to meet with wrestling leader

http://espn.go.com/o...restling-leader


Here's how I envision that meeting going down:

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 02:39 PM

Here's how I envision that meeting going down:

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Sheik humbled him old country way.
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Posted 13 February 2013 - 02:53 PM

Sheik humbled him old country way.


Humble Jacques Rogge like he's Jacques Rougeau.

EDIT: And I can't post the Iron Sheik's tweets regarding this due to language, but definitely go to his twitter page https://twitter.com/the_ironsheik and check them out. And follow him. And if you don't have twitter, sign up specifically to follow him. It'll be the best decision of your day.

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 03:15 PM

Humble Jacques Rogge like he's Jacques Rougeau.

EDIT: And I can't post the Iron Sheik's tweets regarding this due to language, but definitely go to his twitter page https://twitter.com/the_ironsheik and check them out. And follow him. And if you don't have twitter, sign up specifically to follow him. It'll be the best decision of your day.

Haha, he is a great follow. I loved his random, stupid tweets during the NFL playoffs.

Flacco is the real. :lol:
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Posted 13 February 2013 - 04:38 PM

Good points, but there's nothing that says wrestling needs to be held in large venues. It's not like football where you need an 100 yard field, goal posts, etc. It can take place in a gym and you just need a mat. I still thinks it's a bad decision for sentimentality reasons but if people don't care, I can't entirely fault the IOC's for it's exclusion. It just seems to be some recent additions aren't really Olympic sports.


You need a lot of space for warm-ups, etc. In order to get the events done, things have to move quickly, so there is a lot of action behind the scenes. You need a good-sized facility for that. I think some of the recent Games have combined events and facilities. They might hold wrestling, judo, ping-pong and badminton in a convention center.

The number of competitors, I think, is an issue as well. Those 300+ wrestlers mean 300+ more dorm/hotel rooms. It seems like there is a real effort to make the Olympics a more modest affair.

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 04:39 PM

Shouldn't number of participants be taken into account? I mean, the reason given for baseball's exclusion was lack of participation around the world.


I think that's a factor, but not the only factor.

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 04:49 PM

You need a lot of space for warm-ups, etc. In order to get the events done, things have to move quickly, so there is a lot of action behind the scenes. You need a good-sized facility for that. I think some of the recent Games have combined events and facilities. They might hold wrestling, judo, ping-pong and badminton in a convention center.

The number of competitors, I think, is an issue as well. Those 300+ wrestlers mean 300+ more dorm/hotel rooms. It seems like there is a real effort to make the Olympics a more modest affair.

Maybe I underestimated some especially with the Olympic Village space. I still think the facility itself can be mangeable. I appreciate the feedback, I'll admit I hadn't really taken that into consideration.
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Posted 07 September 2013 - 08:49 PM

Really?

 

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