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#21 BSLMichaelWeber

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Posted 14 August 2013 - 11:08 AM

So yeah, Tiger still has a decent chance because golf isn't that athletic and it's not hard to walk 18 holes, so guys can still be really good in their mid to late 40's.

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Posted 14 August 2013 - 11:30 AM

Phil is what 5 or 6 years older than Tiger? So, you would think that Tiger still has 6-8 years where he is capable of winning majors.

 

Like Rob, I think the key to Tiger's run is getting his 15th in the next year or so, and getting the first one off his back.

Golf is a pretty unique sport in that players can have these career years in their 40s. They typically peak much later in many cases than typical athletes. I don't think Tiger will break Jack's record, but I wouldn't no shot.


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Posted 14 August 2013 - 11:33 AM

I think Mackus summed up my thoughts to a 'T'. I really don't see it happening at this point, but it wouldn't surprise me if he did get hot again and got there either.


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Posted 14 August 2013 - 02:19 PM

It's still up in the air at this point, but definitely less likely compared to five or even three years ago. Nicklaus won his 15th major at St. Andrews in '78 at age ~38-1/2, after not winning a major since the '75 PGA (though getting nine top-10s [a T-11 at the '76 U.S. the only blemish], including six top-5s and three runner-ups in the intervening 10 majors). Two years later he had his U.S. and PGA double for #16 and #17, then, of course, the '86 Masters to round out his 18.

The current between-major drought Woods is on is a drought Nicklaus never experienced - not even between his final two major titles. Twenty majors elapsed between the '80 PGA and the '86 Masters, with Nicklaus getting seven top-10s, including four top-5s and three runner-ups, at ages 41-45 (he also was cut twice in '85 and withdrew from the '83 Masters). Woods' current drought spans 22 majors, in which he has nine top-10s, including six top-5s and a runner-up at ages 32-37 (he did not play in four events [twice in '08 and '11] and was cut twice).

Can Woods win four majors in the next decade or so, let alone five? Perhaps, but color me unconvinced. I still don't think his presence in majors over his career compares to that of Nicklaus. Woods has had more majors and extended periods where he was out of contention. Over their contending career arcs, Woods has won more Tour tournaments with a better scoring average (I'd like to see a comparative analysis regarding equipment's impact between their eras, and course design changes [and lags in same] to compensate), but Nicklaus seemed better to me at being the best against the best, more consistently, and not just when looking down on Sunday. Woods will need a hell of a resurgence if he wants to upset that apple cart. It's still possible, but not as likely as when he was 23-26 or 29-32. The early-career predictions some made of 10 Green Jackets and 25-30 majors are looking silly at the moment.
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Posted 14 August 2013 - 02:36 PM

All the second place finishes by Jack were crazy impressive...but the deeper fields now takes some of that away.


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Posted 14 August 2013 - 09:44 PM

Woods could have won two this year. A ball hit the flagstick at The Masters and instead of landing near the hole, rolled a great distance then cost him 2 strokes. Then Mickleson got the luck of an early start at the final round of the British before the course got real tough when Woods went off.

I could definitely see him getting to 18 or 19 majors.
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Posted 22 August 2013 - 08:44 AM

Forgive me for posing this controversial question. 

 

Do you think Tiger Woods used steroids in his prime? Check it out.

 

The guy had his some of his best performances before steroids was newsworthy in sports. He used to be the longest hitter on tour. Not anymore. This is a guy that hit a 6-iron out of a bunker that went 220 yards. You can't do that. No one on tour can. The last few years, seems like Tiger has had numerous injuries. He's a golfer! How often do you get injured walking and hitting a still object? Golfers rarely suffer injury, meaning once in a blue moon a guy might withdraw from a tournament. But this is becoming a bi-annual thing for Tiger. The latest injury, a stiff neck and back from a "soft bed" in his hotel which caused him to pretty much only hit chip shots in a Pro-Am. The guy can't even sleep without suffering injury? Soft bed? Is anyone buying this?

 

All the tell tale signs are there of using steroids, then getting clean. Strongest player/longest hitter at one point, now his body is just breaking down. A-Rod, Sammy Sosa, many other well known steroid users showed the same pattern as baseball started to try to clean the game up

 

If Tiger was a baseball player, everyone would be skeptical. 


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Posted 22 August 2013 - 09:07 AM

Its possible...Its been mentioned that he and other golfers have taken stuff.

 

But highlighting a 220 yard shot out of the bunker isn't a big deal.  With the way the equipment is nowadays, all of the pros are doing stuff like that.

 

They are hitting 3 woods further than people hit driver 15 years ago.


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Posted 22 August 2013 - 09:08 AM

Is there any testing in golf?


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Posted 22 August 2013 - 09:26 AM

I laughed when I heard his injuries were related to "hotel beds." This is Tiger Woods we're talking about. Is it entirely possible sure. But it's not like he's staying at Motel 6's. Safe to say his beds at the Four Seasons or Ritz Carltons are more comfortable than the beds we sleep in. It sounds more like something a minor league baseball player would say.


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Posted 22 August 2013 - 09:26 AM

Its possible...Its been mentioned that he and other golfers have taken stuff.

 

But highlighting a 220 yard shot out of the bunker isn't a big deal.  With the way the equipment is nowadays, all of the pros are doing stuff like that.

 

They are hitting 3 woods further than people hit driver 15 years ago.

 

Yeah, but that bunker shot was 13 years ago. Muscling up from the fairway, I could see it. Even with today's technology, 220 is like 4 iron range from the fairway or long par 3 for some of the better guys. But out of a bunker, 13 years of technology ago? Thats ridiculous. 


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Posted 22 August 2013 - 09:28 AM

Is there any testing in golf?

I have no idea. Funny thing though, there is testing for PEDs in Nascar, which someone, can't remember who, failed a test for last year I think. 


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Posted 22 August 2013 - 09:34 AM

http://www.journalno...19bb30f31a.html

 

According to this article, testing started in 2008. That's right about when Tiger started to come down to earth. Coincidence?

 

A player suffered a year long suspension in 2009 for testing positive for supplemental testosterone and a beta-blocker. 


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Posted 22 August 2013 - 09:48 AM

I don't think they test for HGH and I believe he was linked to the PED doctor up in Montreal that got busted.

 

 

 

I think it's likely he took something, just like 75%+ of your world class athletes the last 20 years.



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Posted 22 August 2013 - 12:31 PM

Mike, you must have missed all of Rob's posts about how physically grueling golf is. ;)

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Posted 22 August 2013 - 12:32 PM

And yeah, I wouldn't be surprised at all if he's used.

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Posted 22 August 2013 - 03:04 PM

When I made a joke about this on my FB wall, someone who is a big Tiger fan left a comment that he usually rents a house for the week at a tournment and brings in his own furniture including "special bed." They said he must've not done this for that tournament.


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Posted 22 August 2013 - 05:03 PM

When I made a joke about this on my FB wall, someone who is a big Tiger fan left a comment that he usually rents a house for the week at a tournment and brings in his own furniture including "special bed." They said he must've not done this for that tournament.



Taking your bed with you where ever you go. Thats not uncommon at all.

Must be nice
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Posted 22 August 2013 - 07:32 PM

I wouldn't be surprised at all if he used steroids but that's not the first thing that popped in my head with the "soft bed" comment...
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Posted 29 October 2013 - 09:29 AM

ESPN: EA parts ways with Tiger Woods

 

http://espn.go.com/g...ar-relationship

 

EA's "Tiger Woods PGA Tour" franchise has sold $771 million worth of games over the course of its lifetime, according to market tracking company NPD Group.

 

Although EA officials publicly said Woods' extramarital affairs and the fallout didn't hurt his status, the company chose to have him share the cover in recent years with the likes of Rory McIlroy, Rickie Fowler and Arnold Palmer.

 


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