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#21 BSLSteveBirrer

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Posted 12 August 2017 - 11:29 AM

Chelsea mounted a comeback and pulled within 3-2. But the nail in the coffin was the second red they took in the 82nd minute. Burnley held on to win 3-2 and the home crowd was booing the Chelsea players as they left the pitch


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Posted 12 August 2017 - 02:34 PM

Sports on Earth: Insanity Abounds Early in EPL Season



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Posted 13 August 2017 - 10:34 AM

Lukaku has had a great 30 minutes.
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Posted 13 August 2017 - 10:35 AM

Welcome to the Red Devils Mr. Lukaku.....wonderful pass from Lankford and Lukaku puts it home for his first goal in a Man U jersey. 1-0 in the 35th minute.



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Posted 13 August 2017 - 10:43 AM

A great goal is the best thing in sports. Replays don't do it justice. It's when it comes in the context of the game.
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Posted 13 August 2017 - 11:06 AM

A great goal is the best thing in sports. Replays don't do it justice. It's when it comes in the context of the game.

Spot on Russ. The problem with replays is they show it in slow motion which makes it look cool. Even a short clip at regular speed does not do justice to the incredibly fast mental aspects that it took to make that happen. And I think it was Rashford not Lankford. But here's what most fans (especially those who never played the game) don't even "see."

 

1. The play starts with Rashford pushing forward directly at the defense.

2. Mattic overlaps wide left to stretch the defense out of the middle just ever so slightly.

3. Lukaku "sees" the overlap and recognizes a slight gap between two central defenders and begins a run.

4. Rashford "sees" the same thing AND recognizes that Lukaku has seen it and is going to make a run.

4. Lukaku makes the run and Rashford makes a perfectly weighted pass to Lukaku.

5. Keeper comes out to cut the angle down as best as he can but Lukaku slots the ball off the inside of the near post.

 

Folks that is a world class play all around.


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Posted 13 August 2017 - 11:12 AM

LUKAKU!!!! 2-0 good guys as Romelu takes over the EPL scoring lead....lol



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Posted 13 August 2017 - 11:55 AM

Steve, where do you see Herrera fitting?

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Posted 13 August 2017 - 01:49 PM

Russ, a couple of thoughts. First Herrera is a strong enough player to be starting on most EPL teams, including Man U. However, Man U is also a very deep club so he won't start that often. Second, though its important to note that last season he had 14 matches in which he came on as a substitute and he scored five goals in those matches. That is pretty stellar work for a midfield sub.

 

But most importantly is that Man U is back in the Champions League. Between EPL and UCL AND time away for all the FIFA national team matches over the next almost year as national teams prepare for Russia, these players will all see a ton of playing time. And Herrera will be right in the mix. Its hard to have too many good players when you have all these matches. The only downside is if a player becomes unhappy feeling that they aren't getting their share of playing time or that they should be starting. Thats where Mourinho will earn much of his paycheck. Must balance keeping all the players playing cohesively and keeping them fresh and happy. Tough job.


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Posted 13 August 2017 - 01:52 PM

The EPL is much more fun when ManU sucks.


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Posted 13 August 2017 - 01:56 PM

Good points.

Herrera was their best player last year. I can't imagine he'd be happy as a rotation player. They have a glut of talent in the midfield.

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Posted 13 August 2017 - 03:18 PM

Good points.

Herrera was their best player last year. I can't imagine he'd be happy as a rotation player. They have a glut of talent in the midfield.

Russ you are correct. Perhaps this is a major difference between most EPL managers and say Buck Showalter. Most EPL (and in fact all top managers) pretty much are concerned with how a player is playing today. Certainly they give past proven performers a bit of leeway but not for long. If you aren't the top dog right now you don't start. Doesn't matter if you were THE top dog last season.  Whereas Buck seems to be overly smitten with 'his guys" And that's not all bad. The players KNOW he has their backs. But he also rides them too long when they are not producing sometimes to the detriment of the team.


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Posted 13 August 2017 - 05:23 PM

Russ you are correct. Perhaps this is a major difference between most EPL managers and say Buck Showalter. Most EPL (and in fact all top managers) pretty much are concerned with how a player is playing today. Certainly they give past proven performers a bit of leeway but not for long. If you aren't the top dog right now you don't start. Doesn't matter if you were THE top dog last season.  Whereas Buck seems to be overly smitten with 'his guys" And that's not all bad. The players KNOW he has their backs. But he also rides them too long when they are not producing sometimes to the detriment of the team.

 

I've noticed this as well.  Sissoko played well in the last preseason game for Spurs, despite his awful season last year, so he started today against Newcastle.  He played a shit half and was pulled in the 58th min.  He'll be buried on the bench for a while unless he practices well, I'm guessing.


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Posted 13 August 2017 - 05:46 PM

Sports are very fluid and while fans everywhere have their favorite players (no matter the sport) in the rest of the world fans are much more a fan of a team.  When Rooney left Man U none of Man Us fans all of sudden became Everton fans. They are still Man U fans. 

 

And soccer in this country is much the same as the rest of the world. Fans are first and foremost of a team. But sports fans in this country, especially those under about 30 or so tend to be more fans of a player or a media darling team (Yankees or Red Sox). You can go anywhere in the US and see loads of "fans" with Yankee or Red Sox (and others like the Dodgers) gear on. And most of them have never been to a game of that team. In fact many of them have probably never even been close to the state where said team is from. Certainly a lot of that is because for our pro sports there are relatively few professional teams. Between football, baseball, basketball and hockey there are what less than 100 cities that even have pro teams (not counting minor league baseball). American kids don't grow up being a fan of a local team. Its just not that big a deal. But EVERY kid in England grew up having a local club that was closely followed. 

 

So when Manny leaves to go to Miami or wherever he goes most of the younger crowd will still love him. Us old timers will be much more cold to him. Not wish him ill but sure won't root for him EVER. Because I am a fan of the Baltimore Orioles and every player who has on an O's uniform. Would I boo Manny when he came back to OPACY for a game? No I wouldn't. But I would cheer like hell when he struck out!

 

So where I am going with this is that our sports culture here is much different than the rest of the world. Here's a prime example similar to  what we are seeing with Sissoko. Manny was really struggling earlier this season. And not for s short spell either. But he still got trotted out there every day. If he were a soccer player he'd been riding pine. Period. 


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Posted 14 August 2017 - 05:04 PM

The Ringer: Manchester United Make a Statement of Intent



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Posted 14 August 2017 - 05:15 PM

NBC Sports / PST: Report: Big changes coming to Premier League transfer window

 

NBC Sports / PST: PL Playback: Ranking new stars



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Posted 14 August 2017 - 08:54 PM

The transfer window needs to be moved to prior to the start of the season. Its utterly stupid to be almost a month into the season before player moves are shut down. How the heck can any manager properly prepare a  team when he goes into the season thinking he has lineup X only to see a key starter or two leave a couple of weeks later?


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Posted 15 August 2017 - 10:25 PM

The transfer window needs to be moved to prior to the start of the season. Its utterly stupid to be almost a month into the season before player moves are shut down. How the heck can any manager properly prepare a  team when he goes into the season thinking he has lineup X only to see a key starter or two leave a couple of weeks later?

 

Never quite understood that one myself, but there are a lot of moving parts when it comes to all the different top leagues and when their windows are, too. Speaking of which....

 

http://www.bbc.com/s...otball/40931420



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Posted 15 August 2017 - 10:47 PM

The Premier League is 25 years old today (15 August). Some looks back, courtesy of BBC Sport:

 

http://www.bbc.com/s...otball/40704646 - Facts and figures from the Premier League's first 25 seasons.

 

http://www.bbc.com/s...otball/40828583 - Premier League at 25, featuring five five-year breakdowns from the current top flight's first 25 seasons.


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Posted 18 August 2017 - 01:31 PM

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