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#101 BSLRobShields

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Posted 07 July 2017 - 02:52 PM

Melewski:

Oriole are still $513,400 under their pool amount and will try to sign other player (s) by today's 5pm deadline.
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Posted 07 July 2017 - 06:40 PM

And for those that said Angelos doesn't meddle like he used to. Conlon failed his physical today. Could have signed him, let whatever happen and recover and had a good shot at having a good prospect in a couple years. Kinda like drafting him in HS, letting him go to college and still owning him when he was done there.

 

But no...not only did they not offer something to sign him and let him recover (don't completely fault them there, cause good chance he could go to A&M and get drafted much higher after he recovers and pitches a year or two) BUT they don't even offer 40% of the slot value so they get the draft choice back. That worried that a "damaged" player will eat up, what $130k???? vs 6 years of control. HOW STUPID ARE THEY???!!!!

 

Like I said, I don't blame Jack for not signing that offer, but what are the chances that between the draft and now something so severe popped up his entire career is at risk? Not great. Even if it's TJ surgery, 2 years he's back pitching, one more year to knock the rust off and get experience and it's the same as if he went to college and they still got to keep him.

 

So stupid to not get that pick.


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Posted 07 July 2017 - 07:15 PM

You don't get 4th rounders back. Only compensation through three rounds.
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Posted 07 July 2017 - 07:17 PM

And for those that said Angelos doesn't meddle like he used to. Conlon failed his physical today. Could have signed him, let whatever happen and recover and had a good shot at having a good prospect in a couple years. Kinda like drafting him in HS, letting him go to college and still owning him when he was done there.

But no...not only did they not offer something to sign him and let him recover (don't completely fault them there, cause good chance he could go to A&M and get drafted much higher after he recovers and pitches a year or two) BUT they don't even offer 40% of the slot value so they get the draft choice back. That worried that a "damaged" player will eat up, what $130k???? vs 6 years of control. HOW STUPID ARE THEY???!!!!

Like I said, I don't blame Jack for not signing that offer, but what are the chances that between the draft and now something so severe popped up his entire career is at risk? Not great. Even if it's TJ surgery, 2 years he's back pitching, one more year to knock the rust off and get experience and it's the same as if he went to college and they still got to keep him.

So stupid to not get that pick.


Well said...just tweeted this to Melewski, be interested to see what he says.
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Posted 07 July 2017 - 07:17 PM

The Orioles didn't sign any additional picks. So, they aren't signing Intl players and leave 500k on the table for the draft.
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Posted 07 July 2017 - 07:42 PM

And his response:

How can you possibly know anything about this, how long he'll be out and when he can pitch? Rob, please.
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Posted 07 July 2017 - 07:44 PM

Wow...Conlon is a FA now. Can sign anywhere!

https://www.fanragsp...ck-jack-conlon/
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Posted 07 July 2017 - 08:31 PM

And his response:

How can you possibly know anything about this, how long he'll be out and when he can pitch? Rob, please.


Yeah I saw this. But I said that too. The ONLY way they come out ahead on this is if it's completely career ending.
Can't compare to Balfour, that was millions for an almost 40 year old. We are talking 6 years of control for less than 150k for an 18 y/o. If you thought he was worthy of taking this high, then you believe the talent is going to develop. Who cares if he is behind 2-3 years after a major injury. This is much less risk than say taking Giolito knowing he was going to be out a year and look at how he was when he was healthy.

The Yankees do this all the time and it seems to work out for them ok most of the time.
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Posted 16 July 2017 - 10:30 PM

Bishop signed

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Posted 17 July 2017 - 06:30 AM

For those looking for evidence that the Orioles are a poorly run organization, the Bishop saga seems to be good fodder.  Sounds like they had an agreement but the O's submitted paperwork 5 minutes past the deadline, and MLB basically decided the kid shouldn't be punished for the Orioles' incompetence.



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Posted 17 July 2017 - 08:22 AM

Here's Rosenthal on the Bishop signing. Sounds like they agreed on a contract two days before the deadline, and he passed his O's physical the next day. And then for some reason (Angelos?), the O's were late with the paperwork.

Keith Law said that Bishop was pitching great in the Cape Cod league - he only fell to the 26th round because of an oblique injury - so this is good news.

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Posted 17 July 2017 - 10:11 AM

Glad he is in the organization but what a clusterF this organization is.  Can't even get paperwork in on time?


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Posted 17 July 2017 - 11:16 AM

Glad he is in the organization but what a clusterF this organization is.  Can't even get paperwork in on time?

They lost the fax number.  

 

Seriously, I am surprised MLB did not use the mess, to screw with the Oriole again.

 

Sounds like they cared more about doing the right thing for the kid, as opposed to poking Angelos again.

 

Good for them.


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Posted 17 July 2017 - 09:08 PM

Rosenthal:

Source: #SFGiants in agreement with RHP Jack Conlon, who became a free agent after #Orioles failed to sign him as their fourth-round pick.
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