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#1 BSLMikeRandall

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Posted 01 June 2017 - 01:31 PM

Figure a place for anyone wants to chat about anything to help their golf game. Equipment they like, don't like, etc...

 

I mentioned in the Outing thread about wanting to work on my short game. Those shots that just miss the green by a 5 or 10 yards that should be up and down for par turn into a double bogey fast for me. I watched some videos, read some articles, went to Mt. Pleasant to practice pitching from 20-30 yards out. 

 

I take 6 balls and the goal is to land each one within a 10 ft. circle. Pros try to get each one within a club length. I'm not that good. I'm basically getting on average 1 out of 6 in the desired target. Which means more often than not two putting for bogey. If I'm way off target, 3 putts, or chipping back on, then two putting, hence the double bogey. 

 

Things I try to remember: Ball positioned on front heel, hands and shaft leaning forward, weight forward, don't decelerate on the downswing. 

 

I swear I'll hit one shot that looks real good, not change a thing, swing the same distance, the next shot will go half as far, not change a thing, the next shot will go over the green. 

 

Are there any short game masters in the house? I swear this costs me 10 strokes a round.


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Posted 01 June 2017 - 01:40 PM

I'm a pretty good bump and runner but I definitely scoop, rather than strike, the ball.  I pretty typically get about 30% carry and 70% run using this method, and I have decent distance control using the mindset that I swing with the same strength that I estimate it would take me to underhand toss the ball the same distance I want it to travel in the air.  I don't get much loft with this, even using my gap wedge which is I think 50 degrees, and if I need to go up and land a chip on an elevated green, or to carry a relatively long distance with little room on the green to roll out, it doesn't work at all.

 

My last round I tried a more professional chipping method.  Used my 60 deg lob wedge, kept my front arm straight and hinged my back arm keeping it as tight to my body as I could and really tried to strike the ball rather than the ground first..  Definitely got more loft which means less run out after landing, and I had solid distance control especially considering it was the first time I tried it.  I still wasn't able to generate any check to really stop the ball as it lands, which is ideally what I'd like to develop, but I think I'll keep trying this way a bit.



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Posted 01 June 2017 - 01:50 PM

I'm working hard to fix the slice on my tee shot.  I've always had it, but what's weird is that my irons are the opposite, I draw those very consistently, have to work to keep them straight.

 

I realized recently that when I take back my driver, I'm pretty much instantly rotating my bottom hand so the palm turns skyward, which opens the club face.  I don't know how I never realized this before.  I made a change on the range, really concentrating on keeping the back/bottom hand closed and not opening the clubface, and it worked great.  I hit buckets twice last week and the vast majority of my drives had eliminated the slice, even had a nice draw on it.  And what was really neat, is if I then went back and opened my wrist a bit on the backswing like I used to do (though not as pronounced) I could hit it with a slight fade. 

 

So I was really excited to try this new swing out on the course, even deluding myself that I'd be able to shape my drives however I wanted.  But I was a nightmare off the tee all round.  Hit about 12 drives, most of them still had a huge slice though I did mix in a couple double-crosses that I pulled and hooked.  So at least there was some change.  Just need to keep at it, I definitely think I've stumbled into a much better swing, just need to be able to get it down consistently.  I think I'm either subconsciously still opening the face on some swings while also overcompensating and overly closing it on others.  Really optimistic that I can figure it out over the remainder of my season, inaccuracy off the tee is the biggest weakness of my game.  I think I could take 3-4 strokes off my handicap (currently 17.0 based on this season's rounds) if I figure this out.



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Posted 01 June 2017 - 02:08 PM

I've fooled around with so many things to make my short game better. I feel like its as good as it's ever been now but thats not saying much. Im playing without much forward shaft lean. Staying neutral with the ball more forward in the stance. The key is a shallow angle of attack. Gives me more room for error. Instead of fatting or thinning balls my misses are still within 20 feet usually.


Now my putting is a different story. I can't get the ball rolling end over end like I want and Im lost with what to do.

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Posted 01 June 2017 - 02:08 PM

Figure a place for anyone wants to chat about anything to help their golf game. Equipment they like, don't like, etc...

 

I mentioned in the Outing thread about wanting to work on my short game. Those shots that just miss the green by a 5 or 10 yards that should be up and down for par turn into a double bogey fast for me. I watched some videos, read some articles, went to Mt. Pleasant to practice pitching from 20-30 yards out. 

 

I take 6 balls and the goal is to land each one within a 10 ft. circle. Pros try to get each one within a club length. I'm not that good. I'm basically getting on average 1 out of 6 in the desired target. Which means more often than not two putting for bogey. If I'm way off target, 3 putts, or chipping back on, then two putting, hence the double bogey. 

 

Things I try to remember: Ball positioned on front heel, hands and shaft leaning forward, weight forward, don't decelerate on the downswing. 

 

I swear I'll hit one shot that looks real good, not change a thing, swing the same distance, the next shot will go half as far, not change a thing, the next shot will go over the green. 

 

Are there any short game masters in the house? I swear this costs me 10 strokes a round.

You sound like me.

 

I'm either decent with short game (for me) or decent off the tee (for me). Can't seem to put that together.

 

And then putting is a whole other issue. Kind of a microcosm of what you just explained. Sometimes I sink a good 8-12 putt and look like I know what I'm doing, then next time I don't hit it hard enough or hit it too hard.

 

What I need to do is get to the point where it's all muscle memory. Right now I'm thinking too much each swing or not thinking enough. Not playing often hurts too. Been out 5 times this year and it's more than I've probably played in the last 4 years. I imagine playing at least once a week is how you improve...and there's no way the wife or the budget will allow for that.


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Posted 01 June 2017 - 02:09 PM

I don't think slicing accurately describes what I was doing -- it was more than slicing. Anyway, bought a PGX offset driver and that seemed to have helped with the slice a good bit. Actually hitting fairways now.



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Posted 12 June 2017 - 09:05 PM

I can't tell you how important staying in your posture is for me.

I had a pretty bad round Friday where I couldn't do anything but hit these annoying ass push fades. I would've shot a million if I didn't have an exceptional day of getting up and down. I spent a good range session working on it and finally got it working after throwing a couple of 5 irons down range.

I set up a quick video and saw that my upper body was sliding forward at the start of my transition. This is my death move but I couldn't feel myself doing it.

It's so simple to fix too. Stupid ass game.


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Posted 21 June 2017 - 05:37 PM

I recently took a short game lesson.

One thing he stressed was to always keep the weight on your front foot. Also, ball position is key. He said line it up with the inside of your right shoulder (if you are right handed). Also, keep your lower body still, even if the shot is further away from the green.

I have to say, just those tips have helped him. I'm a pretty good putter but chipping was an issue.

My biggest issue is 100-140 yards, especially off the tee.

I just have nothing there. Used to but not anymore. My right hand plays into my swing too much. I scoop the ball more and end up getting no distance. Off the tee with those short clubs, I just shank the hell out of it.
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Posted 28 June 2017 - 12:41 PM

Went to golf galaxy today.  Bought a used driver, 3 wood and 3 hybrid (lefty) for $160 total.

 

Pretty stoked as they're replacing  my dad's old clubs which look like they were made in the 80s 


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Posted 28 June 2017 - 01:09 PM

Is just the hybrid lefty or are you lefthanded and all the clubs are lefty?  If it's the former, you may struggle hitting that hybrid.  Swing it like an iron.

 

I (possibly also?) golf lefthanded.  I've found some really good deals on clearance at both Callaway and TaylorMade's preowned club site to replace clubs from my set that have broken, usually cheaper than getting a club re-shafted.  I've also bought used clubs from 3balls.com and just off of eBay and have always been happy with the condition.



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Posted 28 June 2017 - 01:15 PM

All the clubs are lefty -- I golf left handed. 


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Posted 28 June 2017 - 01:15 PM

Need an iron set now.  And what's up with sand and gap wedges not coming with an iron set?  Doesn't seem fair. 


There is baseball, and occasionally there are other things of note

"Now OPS sucks.  Got it."

"Making his own olive brine is peak Mackus."

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Posted 28 June 2017 - 01:27 PM

Lefties represent. Golf clubs devalue pretty quickly. You should be able to find an iron set no more than 5 or 6 years old from say the 4 iron down for 100 or less

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Posted 28 June 2017 - 01:29 PM

Yea I was sorta shocked at Golf Galaxy that the lefty iron sets used were like $550 but apparently these were over a grand new.

 

They had exactly two lefty sets of irons there -- he told me to check back in a week lol.  May just order online.


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"Now OPS sucks.  Got it."

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Posted 28 June 2017 - 01:35 PM

Yea I was sorta shocked at Golf Galaxy that the lefty iron sets used were like $550 but apparently these were over a grand new.

They had exactly two lefty sets of irons there -- he told me to check back in a week lol. May just order online.

Yeah check all around. I got Taylor Made Burners used at 5 years old for $150.

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Posted 28 June 2017 - 01:45 PM

Need an iron set now.  And what's up with sand and gap wedges not coming with an iron set?  Doesn't seem fair. 

 

When I bought my set they offered PW, AW, SW.  I got the PW and AW, but not the SW.  I haven't seen many SW from sets that have the right bounce that you'd want to get through the sand consistently.  I bought a nice separate sand wedge as well as a 60 deg and eventually a 64 deg.  I hit my irons way too far, so needed the 64 degree for shots inside 100.  I struggle mightily with my target line when trying to swing less than full speed.



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Posted 28 June 2017 - 01:47 PM

The 3 hybrid I bought was a Taylor Made Burner.

 

Can't wait to go to the range tomorrow and try these puppies out.

 

I could probably play now with my old ass irons and putter but I may just wait and complete the set before I start playing regularly, signing up for lessons, etc. 


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Posted 28 June 2017 - 01:47 PM

When Golfsmith was going out of business, I bought a set of Mizuno irons that were about 2 years old...The set would have been around 1400ish brand new...got them for $275.


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Posted 28 June 2017 - 01:49 PM

Yea I was sorta shocked at Golf Galaxy that the lefty iron sets used were like $550 but apparently these were over a grand new.

 

They had exactly two lefty sets of irons there -- he told me to check back in a week lol.  May just order online.

 

Used M2's 4-AW at Taylormadepreowned for $320.  25% off all left-handed clubs, actually.  Use code "left". 



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Posted 28 June 2017 - 01:59 PM

Has anyone tried new grips on their clubs. I'm thinking about going to midsized vs standard. I have a 60 degree wedge with a midsize grip that feels really good when I swing it. The only thing is I really don't take full swings with the 60 degree club. I use it inside 75 yards with no more than a 75% swing.




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